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Post by Jeshin on Dec 30, 2019 12:11:14 GMT -5
Saying staff should get rid of someone isn't the same as an obligation to do so.
I can say staff should get rid of Shalnooosh without that creating an expectation or imperative that they -have- to.
Just like I can tell Wildflower they should bring back their mushroom Caesar salad instead of this hardboiled egg one they currently have.
It is a preference/request conveyed by someone.
Sometimes you'll even see a should and a qualifier. The staff should remove Nyr if they don't want to lose players. Are they obligated to? Newp. Should they? If they wish to avoid the outcome that is qualified, maybe.
Finally the denial that any opinion anyone has doesn't affect staff thinking therefore you shouldn't share your opinion with any expectation it will do any good is... Dumb. People have an opinion, they fire it off into the ether of the internet, whether they expect it to do anything or not who cares. If someone thinks they're making a difference and they aren't percisely why does it matter enough for them to stop?
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Post by Jeshin on Dec 29, 2019 21:22:54 GMT -5
Hey Qwerty how about you just tell us why the staff did what. You clearly know many things and have inside information.
Why did the staff link Kaitrena with Okthen. Why did they tell her he was banned but then tell him everything was fine? Lay it all out for us.
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Post by Jeshin on Dec 29, 2019 11:40:46 GMT -5
You do not need to be friends or on a server with someone to msg them (depending on their settings)
Mutual Friend would require that someone be on your friend list and hers (not just sharing a server or able to msg freely)
Mutual server doesn't really prove anything
Both mutual friend and mutual server are not persistent so as soon as the complaint was made someone could have unfriended her and then removed her from the server or just unfriend her and then a mutual server match doesn't matter. It's not like the staff ever contested that she was a part of the arm discord server did they?
EDIT - TLDR Without direct account access screen shots, video, share screen all have varying levels of spoof ability in general and with discord it's pretty much get their login and password or bust for 100% verify. I would point out Shalnooosh could just give his account and password to staff and even if he deleted all his msgs to Kaitrena and unfriended here they could bring up the history of the conversation because her messages would be there.
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Post by Jeshin on Dec 29, 2019 11:25:19 GMT -5
The issue with the photoshop argument is it probably wasn't photshop. Assuming it is fake it'd be someone making a discord account and naming it the same as Shalnooosh and putting the same picture. This then makes it appear as if Shalnooosh is talking to them except the #IDNUMBER after each name and then the longer #ACCOUNTIDNUMBER which you can see in dev mode. As I pointed out in another thread though even without photoshop you can spoof all that stuff if you're determined enough.
Also likely they were putting in extra effort because of the reddit thread. Just declaring this person is wrong doesn't look good if the broader community (10 people or whatever) start rabblerousing for an explanation of why she is wrong/lying.
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Post by Jeshin on Dec 28, 2019 19:52:41 GMT -5
Questions... They will be redundant.
1. You are Okthen? 2. You were not banned until you spoke to staff about the IP addresses? 3. Kaitrena was deemed to have lied because she was linked to your account which was historically 'grudging' with the staff?
If the majority yes...
4. Why were you not disciplined if the staff believed you were involved in a public hoax accusation of a staffer? 5. Was Kaitrena banned for falsely reporting Shalnooosh or did they decide her quitting was sufficient? 6. I'm an advocate of just posting the request tool when you're quitting if you have it. If you would be so kind?
As a note to any readers. It is very common to see people who leave a game after a long time get hung up on singular points. It may look nonsensical or 'crazy' to the outside observer but any game that you have an emotional investment in suddenly becoming a place you are unwelcome or do not want to play again is like breaking up with someone. You're going to fixate and be like "I can't event" and kind of harp on the same points. Thus it would be pretty petty to snipe ate niles for quitting the game and blowing up at staff even though he wasn't technically punished.
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Post by Jeshin on Dec 19, 2019 17:09:36 GMT -5
Taven was like one of the longest newbie helpers.
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Post by Jeshin on Dec 19, 2019 16:10:11 GMT -5
Taven was boss and I hope her writing career has taken off since she left the game.
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Post by Jeshin on Dec 18, 2019 13:42:55 GMT -5
Jcarter and Nyr don't really match. My thoughts would be Shaleah and Whorehouses. Desertman and Byn. Topkek and Mafia Kronibas and Weed Bitter and walls of text Shaleah and Whorehouses, what an extremely feminist sense of humor from a staff who would be incapable of doing any of the things it's accused of.
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Post by Jeshin on Dec 17, 2019 16:11:59 GMT -5
Don't worry everyone, Officer Qwerty is here to protect and serve. Protect you. Protect them. Protect the Game.
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Post by Jeshin on Dec 14, 2019 12:02:17 GMT -5
I personally think lethal and poorly implemented city guard code which can lead to whoopsie deaths with no rollbacks or like toggle newbcrime.
If you are in a bar brawl and type the wrong command you get 86'd by the NPCs inside. Unless you flee, then you can be arrested. The issue is the whoopsie moment in a situation that auto submit to guards won't save you is an example of a system issue.
Obviously there are others but this one is kind of a good case of both a staff issue (no support in correcting) and a system issue (it is working properly).
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Post by Jeshin on Dec 13, 2019 10:49:03 GMT -5
Excuse me, rice would like to have a word with you about your noun selection.
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Post by Jeshin on Dec 11, 2019 13:20:19 GMT -5
Player retention issues are rarely game specific and they are rarely staff centric.
NEW players tend to have barrier of entry be the cause of retention issues. If you've never played an RPI before the syntax, pacing, how things operate is different. Different means misunderstood and that means you can be like fuck it I'm going back to the DBZ mud or the Iron Realms MUD. NEW players also can be demotivated by significant setbacks. If they make a character then die within 72 hours (not played but creation) without understanding why or getting an idea of the setting that will likely cause a loss of player.
It is players who are transitioning from newbie to established or oldbies that leave due to systemic issues.
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Post by Jeshin on Dec 9, 2019 14:50:17 GMT -5
I don't really see the value to posting on reddit. I did cross post some of this to MSB but only because I know for a fact there are RPI transfers to MUSHes over there and someone else started an Armageddon promotion thread ages ago.
REDDIT/MUD community or whatever... RPIs are such small niches and RP muds are not much bigger. Armageddon MUD has shown they are fairly resistant to social pressures and apart from their primary playerbase shifting don't think public shaming will do much. It's not very effective at curtailing Shalnoosh either who can simple change his name if he ever left the game blah blah blah yada yada.
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Post by Jeshin on Dec 9, 2019 12:24:53 GMT -5
I would like to point out that the claim that this board is dedicated to hating armageddon and wants to tear it down is really very misleading.
This board is the game version of a Cleveland Brown football fanboard. Armchair coaching, generals, doctoring, etc is a widely indulged activity in a lot of parts of our life ranging from entertainment to politics to real wars. This is armchair staffing and is no more destructive or negative than all the Cowboy fans that want Garret fired.
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Post by Jeshin on Dec 8, 2019 11:16:54 GMT -5
Move those goal posts Qwerty.
I believe her - You say Staff are feminists - You say He's an asshole - You say It doesn't affect the game - You say He's more good than bad - You say
All of these statements cannot coexist. Either Shaleah has a valid complaint about the staffer being creepy with a literal screenshot of him making a sex joke or she doesn't. You cannot admit to everything being true and believable up to the point that oh but his value outweighs his worth.
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