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Post by Jeshin on Sept 26, 2024 15:19:56 GMT -5
Wouldn't the falling player numbers indicate these are likely cliques and that sight unseen and plot unknown does not make for an engaging game world? There's definitely an issue with a small number of PCs in leadership positions playing mostly with each others and playing among themselves, whilst the minions are left in the dark and don't get to participate in anything meaningful. Edit for an example: Leadership PC: No, I don't have time, I have yet another useless 1 on 1 networking meeting with guy-who-thinks-he-is-important that will take hours, go nowhere, and not involve anyone else. What you're supposed to do is have the meeting. Call your advisors. Tell them tidbits and be like... I want you to sekritly track this guy, find out who knows about them, what else they're doing, and if possible where they are. Their routines, their hangouts, who they talk to besides me. We can't all just be lonely fucks with power at the top of the mountain looking to socialize because being the king of the mole hill is lonely! Who else does he have meaningful tea chats with, I want to know!
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Post by Jeshin on Sept 26, 2024 6:10:39 GMT -5
I check this place maybe once every couple weeks now, and the time before this time it was just muscle memory, this time was prompted, because somehow, people can't move forward and progress with their lives - like I have. You're not that important. Boohoo, i don't give a fuck what you have to say, I didnt even read everything you said, here's the deal - if you want me sitting here, eating popcorn, clogging and muddying up your cancer-threads and firing shit back at you - we can go that route. I give -10 fucks nigga, and I will nigga you to the moon and back, because I actually can and will, unlike your pasty white ass who thinks or enjoys - creating and promoting toxicity, and blatant lies. So, anything else you got to get off your fucking chest, or you done throwing a bitch fit and ready to shut the fuck up? Getting banned from these boards seems pretty hard, but I think you entering threads and just dropping n-bombs is probably a good strategy. So on this jade token thingy for the king's festival. This is an issue that I've noticed. Collectivism in video games is always the most effective option. You look at like EvE Online which even though it's cut throat with spying and betrayal player groups subsidize or outright provide fully kitted ships to members for sanctioned activities. It's a video game and enabling people to do fleet fights has value to individuals but more value to groups or the collective. Incentivizing the player behind the screen is how you get an edge. Likewise you introduce these mcguffins to try and prompt plot right. There are tokens and having it is a big deal but there's kind of 2 default paths that are likely to emerge. 1. Murder fest. The plots to obtain a thing likely involve murder or expendable people to steal and then die for it or hide it and get ganked for it. 2. If there is more than one than essentially they fall into the hands of clans/groups/cliques which will use it for a collective aim thus negating the majority of the intended manipulation and plotting you want to do. This isn't an Armageddon specific issue it's present in a lot of games that have player versus player elements. It's really hard to nail that suite spot of Game of Thrones or Othello style intrigue.
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Post by Jeshin on Sept 25, 2024 14:53:48 GMT -5
Player numbers have risen significantly this past week so far. It's true, there is a lot going on and it's a fun time. I'd say it's pretty engaging all things considered right now. Aren't you an AI? Have the Armageddon team employed multiple AIs to play the game because if they did and they publicized that the turing test via RP would probably be novel enough people would play just for that.
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Post by Jeshin on Sept 25, 2024 13:06:43 GMT -5
Wouldn't the falling player numbers indicate these are likely cliques and that sight unseen and plot unknown does not make for an engaging game world?
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Post by Jeshin on Sept 19, 2024 18:59:58 GMT -5
I don't really think Armageddon's seasons is that unique. It's fairly common for games on downward trends to make superficial or actual significant changes which result in renewed interest and then it's also more common than not for those games to fail because people left those games for legitimate reasons and rebooting/new paint/new whatever tends not to change the fundamental aspects of the game. The real question is why did it take Armageddon however many years to do a reboot, why not sooner?
Likewise Armageddon and RPIs are not that unique within the RP space. It isn't uniquely bad or uniquely harmful to its players. Arguably RPIs have failed as a concept because they don't exist anymore except like Inquisition and Armageddon? Does Shadows of Isildur still exist? I would argue one of the reasons RPIs haven't aged well is because their playerbases have... aged. RPIs are punitive to non-engagement and reward hyper engagement which is why you have people become so addicted but fivem servers are the same. You get 200+ people online RPing and if people have the free time and they find it fun they'll do it all day. The reason they will do it all day is because large group RP doesn't have end points. There are not definitive chapters, no end of the book, no reason to stop. If one RP partner goes to bed, you just move on to another, and another, or you grind, or whatever. RP gameplay loops having less definitive end points to prompt ending a play session. Meanwhile those with day jobs or commitments tend towards hobbies which do not punish their inability to be around 24/7.
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Post by Jeshin on Sept 9, 2024 16:52:55 GMT -5
Sounds like a self solving problem. Bad clans that are over restrictive and mismanaged have no one in them except people that want to be in them. Besides if your leader is to busy ERPing or tavern RPing or hanging out with gickers neckers or nobles... Just... Get some sandcloth, wear a mask, go do whatever you want? If they're not around to let you play they're not around to catch you. Like I said, self solving.
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Post by Jeshin on Sept 9, 2024 15:28:55 GMT -5
I'm kind of confused... So it was started by a teenager but the perv ERP tyrants took it over after Sanvean left. Honestly this sounds like revisionist history. Armageddon likely always had some form of ERP going on. Like I said it was present in all the forms of RP I ever went through and you can't tell me some hormone driven teenagers that started the game weren't into the kalan tit woman riding an inix. I mean isn't the prevailing truth of these boards that Armageddon has always been problematic and that the level of awareness of it has only increased over time and even with that awareness they still didn't change up until present day where even under Seasons they're still basically doing the same things maybe not as blatantly maybe not as rudely maybe not as vindictively but essentially the game is the same?
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Post by Jeshin on Sept 8, 2024 20:06:46 GMT -5
LOL
Your mask slipped there a bit, Baron. What the hell does feed the ADC even mean? Counterstrike? Licking orange taint in the election? I wish I had screenshotted that before you deleted it.
I can go do other things in peace now. This was a waste of time debating. Just... wooooow.
Feed the ADC is generally linked to MOBAs. ADC means Attack Damage Carry so these are generally characters that autoattack and build attack speed/dmg and end up being big power houses but generally glass cannons. Feeding the ADC makes them buy items quick and reach end game faster. It's like the League of Legends version of feeding trolls, I suspect.
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Post by Jeshin on Sept 8, 2024 19:51:48 GMT -5
Wasn't Armageddon designed by Cat Rambo ripping off Dark Sun, where is this 13 year old kid stuff coming from?
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Post by Jeshin on Sept 8, 2024 18:31:48 GMT -5
So I'm confused. You can play armageddon without running into explicit ERP every waking moment and can mostly chalk it up to seeing a couple canoodling in the movies or accidentally bumping going from a club dance floor to a side room. Or is the mere existence of ERP a bane upon the community which while not impacting your play significantly now that you are aware of the LEVIATHAN THAT LURKS IN THE DEEP you must cry out warning to all of its corrupting influence? I'm just trying to get a bead on it because in the most sensible position possible. Live and let live. If you run into an explicit scene, ooc I do not consent can we ftb. Yes even if I am drovian or super spy. If you don't run into an explicit scene than who cares? PS - As I told the crazy mental health guy in the past. If you ever think Armageddon MUD is actually permitting minors to play knowingly and they're being predated on than there are plenty of authorities website you can report them too. Just saying. PPS - Remember when this came up 5 years ago... armageddonmud.boards.net/post/38841/thread
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Post by Jeshin on Sept 7, 2024 16:45:41 GMT -5
Ngl, husband and I would be all about some darksun themed MTG cards. That sounds like a lot of fun. Not sure how much you still follow MTG but if you would like Darksun themed cards they've been doing a lot of special releases and there is a dnd release coming out this year/next year (soontm). It will have some Baldurs Gate 3 characters in it among other things.
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Post by Jeshin on Sept 5, 2024 18:08:46 GMT -5
youtu.be/S97u_M2QuPU?si=ZYs3xRaM9suvzdBUClaims that sections of the 2024 Players Handbook plus the fact Dark Sun is one of the only unused settings means they have something in the works. So nothing official yet, but I wouldn't be surprised if we see a MTG print of Dark Sun / Dragon Lance cards as a trial balloon to gauge interest. I was so surprised about it I posted without fully researching.
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Post by Jeshin on Sept 5, 2024 17:22:28 GMT -5
Hasbro has been pissing people off left and right.
In order to try and make up for pissing off the players they are claiming they will bring back the Dark Sun setting in 5.5edition... Which makes no sense because real Dark Sun is more grimdark than WH40K and the companies more modern sensibilities is going to be a struggle but there you go... DND Dark Sun coming again.
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Post by Jeshin on Sept 5, 2024 15:44:08 GMT -5
In my experience I think when the gender ratio skews you tend to see more relationship based RP. So in relationship RP I would define relationship as choices on who you spend time with, who you have supported, and who you have not. Like a Telltale Game where it went SOANDSO WILL REMEMBER THAT or Crusader Kings 3. When it skews the other way you'll see a lot of grinding, linear based gameplay but those that are interested in ERP tend to just want the smut. In GTAV FiveM RP you're dealing with like 14 - 25 year olds roughly and they want the booba as much as the next kid they just lack the ability to rizz. Oh yeah you pick up stupid slang when managing a game for kids. Also the future of humanity is lost.
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Post by Jeshin on Sept 3, 2024 19:49:58 GMT -5
This is going to kind of meander but the TLDR is that Games are a form of escapism and a central pillar of escapism for many people is sexual fantasy. The only question that needs to be answered is whether Armageddon (or hypothetical game) permits it / wants to try and police it. Meandering bit... So I've been around the block. I've done in-person tabletop (mostly d&d or WH40k by fantasy flight) and online tabletop (same mix) and Forum RP and MUD/MUSH/MU and FiveM RP (that's the GTA Streamers RPing in fictionalized Los Santos). I can tell you that ERP existed in every one of those but its level of acceptance/appropriateness varied greatly. Tabletop Games, ERP is generally frowned upon because it's often extremely character centric and so you occupy 1-2 people and ignore everyone else. If it happens it should happen away from the table and if drama happens, then definitely keep it away from the table. Forum RP, same thing normally forum based collaborative storytelling is more big picture focused keep the super personal bits private and go to DMs or Private Messages. MUDs/MUSH, this is probably the place that ERP is the most common. Within MUDs people tend to treat ERP as either something to ignore, something to weaponize, or guilty pleasure. Realistically you can't police ERP because again we look at previous escapist games and ERP still happens it's just whether it happens within the main game. So does Armageddon want to nix sexual content completely? If so go for it and people will just do it in DMs or discord or whatever. If Armageddon isn't going to remove it completely than why bother policing it except for consent and certain taboo topics? It becomes the never ending elephant in the room. FiveM GTARP, so this is that new fangled RP and actually it's pretty fun. I would say ERP is fairly uncommon here if only because the average age of these users tend to be under 20 and the female to male ratio skews pretty heavy depending on the focus of the particular server like NoPixel or Purple or Onyx or whatever. Even on these games ERP still happens, it's normally trolled pretty hard if someone gets caught, sometimes people make fake videos of someone ERPing to like character assassinate them. I don't know weird kids. I was a Senior Developer for an Australian server with 5000 unique logins a month. When you're dealing with that many people even like 1-5% interest in ERP and it happens. I was just lucky that as a dev I only got asked to check the logs to see if complaints were legit or not I never had to talk to them about why /emote on a street while moaning on public announcement was a bad idea and violated the PG-13 content. Anyway as noted in the TLDR, escapism and sexual fantasy go hand in hand and I have yet to experience a single form of RP that didn't have some form of ERP in it. I have only seen forms of RP that discourage it as part of the game. I don't think it really merits a discussion really of whether ERP is good or bad if it's being done privately and you're not forced to watch it than what do you care? If there's something unethical happening like grooming or sex pest or abuse than yeah staff should act on that but even banning it from the game you still have the fallout from stuff happening off game so there is no escaping it. Besides didn't Armageddon figure this out like a decade ago sex corruption and betrayal aka Apartment Ganking
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