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Post by bracken on May 1, 2015 2:03:43 GMT -5
This shit doesn't work. C-elves are weak as fk. They need to buff c-elves, or do what they should have done years ago and make it ONE race, having two races is stupid and unnecessary. Oh c-elves are broken you say? Let's just pretend they aren't and oh.. d-elves are broken now too? We'll ignore that and just continue to drive them into the ground as a playable race. The only thing broken about c-elves is a lack of a tribe. I hope that now, staff can get back to what they were working on in this regard.
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Post by grumble on May 1, 2015 2:10:46 GMT -5
celfs did git nurfud. itz obvius and intenshunul. stil tehy dont nede kiler stats, staf wont giv tehm teh baking tehy nede. sun tho, sun, u wil se.
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Post by bracken on May 1, 2015 2:19:44 GMT -5
If you don't want to be a coded Bad Ass, why do stats matter?
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Post by grumble on May 1, 2015 2:44:09 GMT -5
y do skilz matur. u kan b a bad as wethowt anithyng. just nto a codid 1.
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Post by delerak on May 1, 2015 3:17:14 GMT -5
They are forced to stay inside the city. This is a ridiculous concept to anyone who understands the elven mindset. Elves are tribal creatures (or they are supposed to be). Not only that elves are supposed to be runners. They travel around and move from place to place, nomadic even depending on the tribes documentation.
Please explain to me where it makes ANY sense for ANY elf to stay within the city. It doesn't. ICly I wouldn't stay in the city if I was an elf. If I had the running capability (which c-elves don't), I would travel the wastes as all elves inherently desire to do.
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Post by jesantu on May 1, 2015 3:34:15 GMT -5
This shit doesn't work. C-elves are weak as fk. They need to buff c-elves, or do what they should have done years ago and make it ONE race, having two races is stupid and unnecessary. Hmm. Disagree. Doesn't matter if they're coded as one race or not because your city elf shouldn't be leaving the city. If you want to do that, make a desert elf. Plain and simple. City elves are meant to be descendants of desert elves who couldn't hack it in the sun. They retreated to the cities and many, not knowing how to adapt as well as due to their elven nature, took up criminal activity. Elves in arma don't have to be exactly like dark sun's elves. These ones happen to be different. In the earlier days of arm they were quite popular despite their weakness compared to desert elves (they're supposed to be weaker). But that's not because of any coded allowances to the race itself, it's because there were coded clans to play in. Make city elves interesting again and more people will play them. No need to combine them into one race just because dark sun's elves are.
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Post by delerak on May 1, 2015 3:56:49 GMT -5
Please explain to me how one race "can't hack it in the sun". That's so absolutely ludicrous it borders on insanity. Please by all means.. I'm waiitng..
Calling it now you're going to say FANTASY.
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Post by delerak on May 1, 2015 3:57:37 GMT -5
So wait wait wait. Humans, half-elves, half-giants, halflings... jozhal.. rats.. hmm. All them can hack it in the sun but not these elves. These elves just can't tolerate the sun. Are they special ginger elves that are too pale they get sun burned?
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Post by delerak on May 1, 2015 3:59:24 GMT -5
Wait I got it. They decided to stay in the cities for a completely unknown reason. Nobody in history can ever know why these specific elves said fuck it we will just stay here and never move ever. Not only that but over the course of only a thousand years or so (According to the timeline the cities haven't been around that long), they've lost all capability to survive in the desert. They've lost millions of years of evolution as runners in only a thousand years in cities...
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Post by jesantu on May 1, 2015 4:00:29 GMT -5
The same reason some tribes in the real world struggle and shift to more urban landscapes. Ever heard about the uncontacted tribes in the amazon? They're starving and sometimes slip into the towns to steal food.
This is exaggerated in arma when you consider the desert is filled with monsters the size of a semi truck and hostile magickers etc.
People shift and move. Some adapt better than others. Some aborigines can't hack it in the sun either and have shifted to the cities for sustenance.
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Post by silentlamb on May 1, 2015 4:00:32 GMT -5
So wait wait wait. Humans, half-elves, half-giants, halflings... jozhal.. rats.. hmm. All them can hack it in the sun but not these elves. These elves just can't tolerate the sun. Are they special ginger elves that are too pale they get sun burned? He said some could and some couldn't. Just like some humans can do persistant hunting (as most humans once did) and nowadays few can.
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Post by delerak on May 1, 2015 4:01:25 GMT -5
Wait I got it. They decided that they'd rather live in cities and become slaves and be murdered by templars then live free in the desert. Makes perfect sense. I'd totally take that route as well.
Hmm if I was a ultra-marathon-runner capable person and all of my people ran around outside I'd totally just sit in the city. Not only would I do that but every single descendant of mine would do this as well.
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Post by jesantu on May 1, 2015 4:02:44 GMT -5
And some elves found they could earn a better living selling fake salarri weapons or whatever than they could fighting for an existence in the sands. They procreated and generations later you have entire bloodlines of elves in the city. Nothing ludicrous about that. Is downright anthropological.
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Post by delerak on May 1, 2015 4:02:47 GMT -5
Ah I see you're both using logic and reasoning from our world. But it's fantasy so we can't do that now can we? If you're doing that, I win. Because it makes zero sense for them to lose the ability to run as their desert brethren can. Physiologically they are the same race and so should have the same stats/attributes.
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Post by delerak on May 1, 2015 4:03:46 GMT -5
And some elves found they could earn a better living selling fake salarri weapons or whatever than they could fighting for an existence in the sands. They procreated and generations later you have entire bloodlines of elves in the city. Nothing ludicrous about that. Is downright anthropological. Absolutely this is ludicrous. It goes completely against what elves represent. What they are at their very core. Wanderers. Raiders. Running free over the sands. This is ingrained into elves and why they run. If you say city elves don't have this then they are no longer elves. They are humans with pointy ears.
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