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Post by Jeshin on Jun 28, 2019 13:21:43 GMT -5
If someone wants the baseball bat D on an RP game it is their God given right to play out that fantasy until the other party withdrawls consent. Good day sir!
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Post by Jeshin on Jun 28, 2019 11:07:53 GMT -5
The last I knew Shalnoosh is Malifex who is a man.
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Post by Jeshin on Jun 27, 2019 20:17:35 GMT -5
The only reason I say you shouldn't multiplay on Armageddon is that it's a staff rule. This thread discusses ways to do it, acknowledges it's cheating and says some of the reasons you might do it. Off-peak, no sparring partner, want some of that hunting life but don't want to lose your RPing character. All the reasons you might choose to cheat in favor of multiplaying are probably reasons I would permit multiplaying except the whole sparring with yourself. As is common with any alt policy to have no crossover.
As for 'other games have it' I was actually using that as a comment that Armageddon could have an Alt Policy and be fine. You said you've experienced multiple OOC/IC crossover issues that you do not experience on other games ergo the playerbase for Armageddon probably shouldn't be trusted with -more- opportunity for OOC/IC cross over between multiple characters. Fair enough. I do not think it'll be that big of an issue. That being said I have not played Armageddon since Tuluk closed or thereabouts. Maybe the playerbase has gone completely to the dogs, I would probably still argue it's lack of staff enforcement of cheesy ooc/ic issues than anything else that causes it.
TLDR - We agree on do not multiplay. I actually do not think there is a reason to disallow multiplay but I do think staff have a right to decide.
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Post by Jeshin on Jun 27, 2019 18:43:21 GMT -5
That's easy staff do not need PCs when they can play any NPC they want on the understanding that narratives are for PCs and NPCs can be awe-inspiring but ultimately serve the player narrative. Besides one of the most common defenses for staff having a PC is that they treat it like an NPC anyway so make the jump to just straight actual NPCs.
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Post by Jeshin on Jun 27, 2019 18:01:11 GMT -5
Armageddon drove off all the quality players and is left with die-hard and people more interested in the game aspect than the roleplay aspect! That would be my gut defense. Also, I don't get the Jan reference please explain.
All of that aside we agree multiplaying isn't something people should do on Armageddon. You think ever because immature playerbase. I think because it's against the staff rules and whether or not alting is allowed is a rule staff should be able to decide versus people talk outside your game you can't police that it's insanity.
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Post by Jeshin on Jun 27, 2019 16:58:39 GMT -5
And those specific people who cheese should be punished. The act of sharing IC events OOCly isn't inherently bad, it's just people discussing something they do. Spoiling Endgame is bad and people should feel bad, but you still discuss Endgame. As for the other two topics they were part of the staff policy of do not discuss XYZ. They are the YZ part. They are fine to discuss (presumably) so IC events should be too.
Belated EDIT - Which doesn't mean I support multiplaying. Just that the basis multiplaying is bad because the playerbase is immature is wrong imo. It has nothing to do with the playerbase and everything to do with the fact the staff have single character as a requirement. Plenty of RP games (more MUSHes or hybrids) have alt policies that are very effective.
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Post by Jeshin on Jun 27, 2019 15:35:27 GMT -5
I don't really think the Armageddon (or RPI if you want) policy of: Do not discuss IC ever, do not associate your OOC identity to your IC character ever, Do not share 'secrets' ever... is feasible. We are humans, we enjoy something, we talk about it. Even with a policy of do not spread IC via OOC channels really boils down to do not get CAUGHT spreading IC through OOC channels. If someone is playing and they tell me something and I tell it to someone else, then as long as no one acts on that OOC knowledge is an inappropriate way there is no reason to oppose it spreading. Part of the reason this forum even exists is the playerbase resisting arbitrary rules about what can be discussed and what can't be. This included knowledge of mechanics, IC knowledge of exploration spots, and historical knowledge of IC events.
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Post by Jeshin on Jun 27, 2019 14:26:51 GMT -5
I posted that ^ for some reason my Jeshin login is linked to Joe! and my rando login is linked to Jeshin. Must be a fluke from when I posted anonymously WAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAY back when.
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Post by Jeshin on Mar 11, 2019 9:46:05 GMT -5
Tuluk closed removing the IC justification for Tom from Myspace
Staff rejiggered all the spell lists remove the ability of Sherlock Holmes
You're describing a good thing with press gang man
Plot ninja there are no plots and if someone believes there are bless their summer child optimism.
Realistically though you might be seeing less 'bad play' because player numbers are down and the bulk of the remainder are more experienced players who don't make the newbie mistakes that you are describing here or if they do it may be in pursuit of a concept of RP.
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Post by Jeshin on Feb 21, 2019 20:14:56 GMT -5
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Post by Jeshin on Feb 21, 2019 14:36:25 GMT -5
As per usual the majority of complaints tend to be delayed until the player has fully quit the game or believes they can share it without being identified via the anecdote.
But is Qwerty's continued damage control here while being a part of staff a valid of complaint? Y/N
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Post by Jeshin on Feb 21, 2019 10:45:12 GMT -5
Nessalin and Adhira left the game?
It's been my impression that staff has never really taken responsibility officially for past issues they just have someone like Qwerty or Nergal admit to something on a 3rd party forum
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Post by Jeshin on Feb 21, 2019 9:46:56 GMT -5
The correct staff response should be
A) We have new owners/head staff who will address abuses. B) Yes those things happened and we acknowledge they happened, but we are now on an up trend and reviewing player complaints closely C) We cannot do anything about negative opinions based on past mistakes. All we can do is try and prevent that from occuring and create a new normal which new players will use as the basis for their opinions. Players who are lost to us are lost FOREVAH. D) Possibly like a starbucks gift card you know if someone is loaded on staff, that'd be nice.
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Post by Jeshin on Feb 20, 2019 17:32:40 GMT -5
Qwerty are you implying that Nyr was the young up and comer and you were the oldschool staffer there long before him? That would pretty drastically narrow down who you are.
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Post by Jeshin on Feb 19, 2019 19:46:06 GMT -5
The negative experience of former players Otherwise known as critical review! But no I get what you're saying. You want to know how to play the game, while looking for it you're getting some 50-100 (or however many people use this thing) review of the game with an unhappy bias.
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