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Apr 25, 2015 16:57:56 GMT -5
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Post by Jeshin on Apr 25, 2015 16:57:56 GMT -5
Quick clarification from Delerak. Are you referring to multi-combatants when 1 dies or flees, the next person to land a hit will be the one you are fighting? Thus in the log it demonstrates that the NPC is selecting its next victim instead of being triggered by being hit?
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Post by Jeshin on Apr 25, 2015 16:14:43 GMT -5
Nah I have never actually played a Pickpocket, I also never got caught stealing. I used to break into peoples apartments as Elrum 'banished' Irofel and steal paintings if they had them and only paintings. And no Elrum didn't have picklock he'd just sneak past the door guard and jiggle the handles (open door) and see if some newb forgot to lock it. A lot of people do apparently.
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Post by Jeshin on Apr 25, 2015 16:12:01 GMT -5
>.> I like Bitterflashback's edit of my statement more than my original statement.
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Apr 25, 2015 16:08:19 GMT -5
Post by Jeshin on Apr 25, 2015 16:08:19 GMT -5
You could do that. You might do that. He might be doing that. But as I don't see anyone coming out in strong agreement of his shadowboard users were specifically targeted theory I don't think he's getting any traction. Just like if you started proposing a theory and claiming 'others' had said so you wouldn't get any traction either.
EDIT - Just because there's a potential for abuse doesn't mean that Kronibas or anyone else should feel pressured to out people who came to him with the presumption that they wouldn't be referenced or outed.
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Post by Jeshin on Apr 25, 2015 16:05:42 GMT -5
About too? Lyse did you miss our spamcraft thread in code discussions?
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Post by Jeshin on Apr 25, 2015 16:05:04 GMT -5
Kronibas you started the fight
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Apr 25, 2015 16:03:50 GMT -5
Post by Jeshin on Apr 25, 2015 16:03:50 GMT -5
As someone who people have come to as a way to tell their story. I do not think Kronibas should be required to give up any identifying information shadowboard or otherwise of anyone who has come to him to talk. I certainly wouldn't no matter how much my critics wanted me too.
Counter-request: If you believe as Kronibas does and you want to come out and explain why, go for it, hell make a throwaway account if you need too.
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Apr 25, 2015 16:00:18 GMT -5
Post by Jeshin on Apr 25, 2015 16:00:18 GMT -5
Once again I am not saying that shadowboard users were not specifically targeted. I'm just saying that it's an improbable scenario even knowing Nyr and I certainly know what it feels like to be targeted by Nyr. Go read my request tool dump of our back and forth and me filing a complaint about him which failed.
Just because it could be true, doesn't mean it is true. For example some people claim that America has a higher per capita of small business starters than any other country in the world. Does being American inherently make you more likely to want to be self employed? Not really, but there are some pretty good case studies that Americans might have a genetically predisposed to risk taking because of who colonized America and what their personalities were like.
Same thing here it is entirely possible that influential shadowboard users are just predisposed to a style of RP and approach to worldbuilding that rubs staff the wrong way and thus they are targeted not because they are from the shadowboard but because they display traits they are not supported by staff. It is just happenstance they also happen to be shadowboard users just like it could be happenstance that American's are inherently more likely to start their own businesses than other nationalities.
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Post by Jeshin on Apr 25, 2015 15:55:12 GMT -5
Rangers facilitate the most roleplay. You see if you look at my patended time vs effort = efficiency equation which I discussed in the How to Ranger thread. You can see that not only are Rangers the best coded guild but also the best RP guild. They can gather materials with other, participate in combat RPTs with others, act as scouts/lookouts for both outdoor and indoor activites, they even get medical skills which make them great after combat RPers, and they also get crafting skills which make them just as good as merchants but betters!
I am kidding here, but you can make an arguement for almost any guild being better at RPs than other guilds. I mean I could argue that a breed pickpocket provides more RP than anyone because everyone should hate him he gives everyone a focus for negative RP. Because he can rob them he creates ripples of RP from his actions that affect an exponential amount of players. Blah blah blah. Personal preference... Yada yada.
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Apr 25, 2015 15:51:15 GMT -5
Post by Jeshin on Apr 25, 2015 15:51:15 GMT -5
To clarify... Do I believe that the staff could and would target specifically shadowboard players. Maybe? If we did something like had 3-4 of us join the byn or form a rinth gang or something I could see us being targeted. However I do not believe that shadowboard users stating they were killed in an RPT in a clan that we already know the staff had their eyes set on due to splintering attempts, represents any sort of statistical evidence that shadowboard people were targeted.
It's like having 3 white guys, 3 black guys, and 3 asian guys. If 2 white guys live and everyone else dies. You could state that staff were targeting minorities, but that ignore that 7 out of 9 of the entire group is dead. Like sure it's POSSIBLE they were targeting minorities but it's more probable that were just targeting the group as a whole and letting the chips fall where they would.
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Post by Jeshin on Apr 25, 2015 15:26:05 GMT -5
Quick note - The shadowboards are no longer 'small' they easily match the traffic of the GDB and I think a lot of GDB posters or former posters have accounts now. So to say, well someone from the shadowboard said they were soandso and all the shadowboard people died is about as statistically relevant as someone saying they were targeting GDBers.
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Post by Jeshin on Apr 25, 2015 14:45:04 GMT -5
I am excited to see if Jazet posts on this thread. I think senior staff of all MUDs should take an interest in lively discussion about their game!
EDIT - I definitely need coffee... Jazet, #1 question, in your opinion what separates your game from other fantasy games that players can choose from? #2 What would you say to players who have stopped playing or are unsure whether to play? #3 Can you give us a brief blurb on your staffing philosophy, how you approach the game from your perspective?
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Post by Jeshin on Apr 25, 2015 14:40:22 GMT -5
Quick addition - I'm not saying a throwaway mugger can't be fun, I just don't think it's worth the time commitment or the very real possibility that an entire city of players will turn on you in a very questionable RP manner. I prefer to avoid putting myself in situations that multiple muds and multiple players have shown they do not RP very well with. Keeps the frustration low.
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Post by Jeshin on Apr 25, 2015 14:29:19 GMT -5
Kronibas, I think a lot of people read your stuff because...
1) You post a lot... Like a lot a lot 2) On the very small off chance you are not only accurate but have the context right than whatever you post would be significant so by default we have to at least consider the possibility you're not just throwing shit against the wall (again). 3) I'm so sick of reading some of your nonsense that I made a GDB account specifically to post in ask the staff to get clarification because you refuse to provide any references yourself 4) I'm not a fan of staff but staff 'tripping' over answering themselves. Ramp up the propaganda speak man, ramp it up to 11.
EDIT - To put #2 in perspective. If ARM indeed did encourage pedophila that would be a huge deal with very real repercussions and a moral obligation to do something about it. If ARM indeed had spamcraft code that auto-marks your account notes that'd be a big deal and there'd be a lot of people curious about where that trigger line is so as to avoid it themselves. If ARM staff specifically went after shadowboard posters in a byn rpt to kill them off that'd be a pretty big deal and it'd be some obvious staff abuse to add to the dump thread where we have such things.... I bring these things up because none of that is actually true to my knowledge. I'd be more likely to believe that staff was just clearing the decks with the byn than taking the time to specifically target people that they have investigated and determined to be shadowboard posters. Like sure it's possible, but it's way more probable they were killing a bunch of clan members. Which makes more sense?
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Post by Jeshin on Apr 25, 2015 14:22:26 GMT -5
I don't know if you know this, but warriors/rangers who twink have a high enough defense that they can beat people to death with their hands. I can show you logs of Elrum with no armor and no weapon beating newb warriors and other rangers into KO with his fists in the arena. They had weapons.
EDIT - So some max str dwarf probably isn't going to KO a 50+ day players ranger/warrior who knows what they're doing.
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