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Post by Jeshin on Jul 1, 2015 16:24:12 GMT -5
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Post by Jeshin on Jul 1, 2015 1:01:03 GMT -5
Good question. Currently everything is out of my pocket. As none of the Project Redshift staff believe in pay 2 win, we'll worry about funding it when it's closer to release and we'll reveal some of our ideas on funding.
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Post by Jeshin on Jun 30, 2015 8:14:21 GMT -5
1. Project Redshift staff will not play the game. Thus far all staff have volunteered for this restriction.
2. Project Redshift staff get paid ergo they are held accountable for customer satisfaction.
3. Staff/Player conflict is impossible to not have. Our focus will be on making sure complaints are heard, recorded, and that particularly well thought our or consistent complaints are reviewed.
So to expand a bit on this. Let us suppose during alpha (we'll have an alpha phase which will be code testing not like full blown RP/Story) that people do not like the way we structured our emote system. Well emote systems are a pretty big part of player experience. So we source all the feedback, find consistent complaints, and try and figure out why it's a problem and change it. Truth be told we expect a professional customer relations response to remove a lot of the common issues MUDs have.
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Post by Jeshin on Jun 29, 2015 1:21:25 GMT -5
1. In the Redshift universe the Earth's sun entered a period of high solar activity which caused solar flares to become more common. This is a real thing our sun does and we have about a 15% chance of it happening every decade or so. This would cause massive radiation spikes but more importantly it would wash our planet in crippling EMP and fuck our weather.
2. Due to the sun messing up the planet, the people of Earth opted to get out of dodge. This was further pushed along due to resource issues from the advent of 3D printing causing humanity to go on a bit of a binge.
3. There are 3 seedships (which are Generational ships meaning that multiple generations of humans will live and die onboard before it reaches it destination) are sent out in 3 directions to areas that are believed to have potentially human habitable worlds. One of these ships is called the Trinidad and is the setting of Project Redshift.
4. In recent history the warp drive (Alcubierre drive) was developed but cannot be used on ships the size of the Seedship. This however gives the residents of the seedship the opportunity to explore for the first time since their journey began.
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Post by Jeshin on Jun 28, 2015 16:34:14 GMT -5
Hey,
My soul can no longer handle the shameless plugging of Optional Realities. Luckily I'm the founder of the community which means there's a guy I can get to do it for me. From now on you'll be getting your weekly updates from Crayon! Treat him just like you'd treat me.
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Post by Jeshin on Jun 28, 2015 13:13:55 GMT -5
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Post by Jeshin on Jun 28, 2015 0:22:41 GMT -5
Final comment on this thread for me, since someone chitchatted with me on IM about it and since my position is more middle-road they were confused as to my specific "stance" on the issue. Not that anyone cares, but for clarity.
1. Those players should not be rezed based on current policy.
2. Crimcode should be updated or policy related to rezs from it should be changed.* note
3. Staff should not have engaged with Asan at all regarding this issue since he was a player requesting a rez for other players. They should have stonewalled and followed their own policies regarding discussing player issues with other players. It might make you grumble but it is their policy.
4. Asan while passionate didn't help his case at all with the way he framed his requests and arguments. Would it have mattered if he had? Probably not, but it's worth noting.
5. If the staff -had- to justify this action they should have simply stated Code = RP. This is a common phrase in the Armageddon community and saves them from specifically explaining bad code in an IC manner. Would it make you grumble, sure. But it would have at least been consistent with previous statements and would have been harder to pick apart.
* note: If this situation is the one that prompted the staff to review their policy then those 3 recruits should have been rezed.
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Post by Jeshin on Jun 27, 2015 15:13:58 GMT -5
Here is what matters... 1. Did Asan's dialogue affect the potential outcome of the verdict? Unlikely. Whether he was the nicest nice guy those 3 characters would not have been rezzed. 2. Do staff have to adhere to a higher standard than players? You bet your ass. (We actually have 2 threads discussing the subject on OR with multiple game staff: Hereand Here too) 3. Does the situation where staff obviously made a mistake and rez'd Asan lead into a likely very confusing and frustrating 2nd situation when crimcode clearly and I mean CLEARLY fucks over 3 people not getting a rez? I think so. It's like someone getting arrested by the police and receiving an apology then 3 other people get arrested by the police and go to ass rape prison. They're sitting there going, I don't get it, this is wrong, what is happening! 4. Logical Fallacy Appeal to Moderation. Both parties are often wrong in a complaint. Asan could have definitely composed his dialogue in a more professional manner, but he's a player, that isn't his role. That is the staffs role. Out of the 2 wrong parties here, the staff are more wrong than him and what's more they are the party who is supposedly there to create enjoyment for players. |
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Post by Jeshin on Jun 27, 2015 1:04:55 GMT -5
Yeah I'm not going to bark up that tree. Not only do I not play Armageddon (and haven't seriously played in years), but even if I were to make a complaint I was not involved and they'll just say. You have no basis for a complaint and decline it.
I'm not saying what Adhira is doing or has done is right. I am saying that given policy, past actions, and what we know about the staff disposition that she responded about as appropriately as was possible. There is also the very very very unlikely potential that people were reprimanded behind the scenes. Is it possible, sure. Do I think someone was given the finger wag, probably not given certain staffers high positions on the totem pole.
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Post by Jeshin on Jun 27, 2015 0:37:28 GMT -5
Given the demanding statements you made in the followup request I think that Adhira did respond appropriately. She acknowledged a staff mistake, but only after you got every single complaint denied. So that's a mixed bag. I know if some player "demanded" I remove staffers I'd probably stonewall them too. Player complaints matter, but player demands are something most game owners and senior staff have a need to resist. This is obviously a teeny bit difference because Nyr has probably the majority of the staff complaints ever submitted attributed to him. I believe Anaiah quoted a % once when she was a staffer.
If I were participating in the conversation, I would probably inquire to Adhira why Nyr (who has numerous complaints, logs of his bullying, and inappropriate behavior) is still a high ranking staffer and why he has never been asked to issue a formal apology to the playerbase as a whole. Probably the most valid question anyone can ask her is does she believe the work Nyr does outweighs the complaints against him?
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Post by Jeshin on Jun 26, 2015 10:36:34 GMT -5
I'm not sure Jcarter did much more than go to the admin function of the board and run reasonable's e-mail to see if any other accounts had the same e-mail and then ran reasonable's IP to see if any accounts had the same IP. I wouldn't misconstrue that as an "investigation" or "serious effort" to discover the identity. It's just how someone would check to see if Reasonable was using multiple accounts on the forum.
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Post by Jeshin on Jun 26, 2015 9:11:01 GMT -5
The Shadowboards is what made me believe there was a desire for a community that openly and frankly discussed text-based games with little to no moderation. Without Jcarter, there would not be an Optional Realities. Truth.
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Post by Jeshin on Jun 26, 2015 8:32:04 GMT -5
I tried to convince Adhira to come post once. I believe her response was that she wasn't interested in the stress level she associated with coming to a forum which was viewed as hostile towards her. To be fair that is a reasonable reply and there were a few fuck Adhira threads at the time so can't really say she wasn't somewhat right to be hesitant.
On the flip side go look at EoE. Jazet and Alaire got pretty soundly besmirched (great word) and they ended up coming onto the forum and addressing the complaints in a civilized and productive manner. I believe they even unbanned Anaiah after having a conversation with her. I think it's a great example of stepping into the lions den and coming out ahead of where you were had you not taken the time.
If staff aren't comfortable to post here, they are welcome (and have an open invitation) to post on OR. Though the Armageddon sub-forum on OR isn't even like 1/10th the level of frustration/bittervet/burnout that this forum is so I'm not sure posting there would be as effective to boosting and promoting their game as coming here and doing it.
EDIT - When I tried to convince Adhira to come post. I did not personally speak to her a 3rd party did so it is possible Adhira said none of those things.
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Post by Jeshin on Jun 26, 2015 8:10:12 GMT -5
Quick Note
If it is inappropriate (and technically it is) to request a rez for another player than the staff response should have been...
"We do not discuss other player's situations with players. If/when they request a rez we will address the situation."
You see by engaging him with an explanation instead of a re-direction they basically validated the request and implied should circumstances have been different that the outcome could have resulted in a positive decision. If this was not the case they would have been better served by the ol' no discussion of request tool stuff evah. Sure it would have looked bad, but if the player went rogue and outed the logs I don't think anyone would have faulted them to adhering to stated policy.
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Post by Jeshin on Jun 25, 2015 17:39:42 GMT -5
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