The Crimson Wind should voluntarily store

I was raided by the Crimson Wind repeatedly on the same character and they never killed me and never took all my stuff.

It's like paying taxes, roll with it and scheme to get them killed better. Most of the attempts I've heard about IC to take them down have been utterly boneheaded shit, like the one templar who literally engaged them at the walls of Red Storm.

Okay, undoubtedly, some people who read sirra's post are going to sit back, smirk as they shake their heads, and say to themselves without doubt or hesitation:

"That kinda thing simply doesn't happen in my beloved game."


But let's meditate and reflect on some history for a moment:

1. Let's remember how one of the most beloved figureheads of the game, Sanvean, allowed her love of the Tan Muark to overwhelm and blur the lines of IC/OOC. Clearly and without question, the fact that she had invested so much into this clan's documentation allowed it to rise to a point where, really, it shouldn't have. And like as we saw in the case of Clegane, well... it affected specific players as much as it did the course of the entire game, even a decade+ later.

2. Don't forget how Nyr's attitude and pettiness influenced NOT ONLY specific plotlines, players, documentation and entire groups within the game, but also how it ripped apart the game to such a degree that the StReNgTh of the sHaDoWbOaRd was bolstered exponentially, resulting in a sphere of influence that, while helping slice away at a huge section of staff toxicity, admittedly resulted in one of the most damaging things to ArmageddonMUD, ever. Which to me is part of the bad that comes with the good - because the staff allowed the terrible circumstances that caused so many to post here in the first place. Certain upper echelon staff members had the capacity to prevent it from ever reaching this point but, regrettably, were simply too negligent or not influential enough to stop what was happening.

3. You must remember how EVEN THE MOST INFLUENTIAL staff members, people like Shalooonsh, Bhagharva and Halaster (and, hey, these are just the most famous and widely-publicized examples), allowed themselves to act unchecked and influence the game world to their own benefit or the benefit of their, well, girlfriend, or some shit. Yes. It's not good. And no one is perfect - I don't think people should be eternally crucified for when they fucked up - but you can't forget these things.


You can't forget that this kinda shit went down, or, otherwise, you will find yourself being casually dismissive of statements like sirra made in the post before this one. He's right. People are human and sometimes forget why they're on staff, or what staff's real job is... and what that can result in are favors being issued that aren't exactly fair, or people getting hooked up while others are neglected, or X imm's friend getting Y while Player V gets the shaft, or maybe even worse, ignored.


Tell me I'm wrong. It's part of why I still don't play, even though I find myself reading this board and even the GDB way too god damn much for a 32 year old man who hasn't played the game he's reading about in over two years, or regularly for nearly half a decade.

And, hey, there aren't any easy answers, really, except to expect the kind of accountability that you simply won't ever find from a volunteer staff of people, many of whom don't have an extreme long-term investment in the game, period.

Cheers.

I played part of the Crimson Wind for a while and I'm not a staff pet nor anyone with high karma. Crimson Wind is literally just players being so insanely robust that it's gotten to the point where the only way to kill them is through ooc gimmicks and meta gaming. You guys have no god damn idea.

wow now they sound like a much shorter-lived version of the 3-4 year legacy kurac twinks u were trying to defend

someone else made it seem like the cw guy had to constantly recruit more ppl vs having a bjergar/ish/armali multiyear 'spar master' brigade to command

that being the case they sound a hell of a lot less worse than whatever kurac had going on for way longer

Zoinks made an account and made only 1 post in this thread.

I haven't seen any CW in a while.

A (former?) storyteller, Melanogaster, played the founder of the Crimson Wind. The staffside concept was to show the player clan system works, but it did not occur organically. If it's still alive now, it's most likely because it's on life support from staff.