Status of the other RPIs

Yeah, I know I said I'd do a write up of the game. That's one of its problems, you can't really learn the language on your own either. Since the playerbase is so small, there's nobody really there to teach you. So most conversations cause headaches.

Haven Update with CITATION!

So as some of you may know Haven used to have a pretty heavy forum moderation culture as executed by Discordance. It pretty much killed discussion and eventually a subforum called DMZ was created for +1 posts and casual conversation and shittalking. It ended up being kind of the de facto forum used because the only rules were don't out peoples alts and don't death threat... or something. Anyway a thread was created most recently about Haven 4.0 being "dead". I can copy the entire thread but for ease I will TLDR it...

Haven is dead
I feel Haven is not dead
Player numbers indicate Haven is dead
Haven goes in waves, all games drop from their peaks
I tried to play but my efforts were ruined by crybabies
Maybe you were a baddie for the way you played
Someone explain to me how game design "forces" players to be baddies, no one has ever done so properly
Several people make points on the topic
People are just dicks and if you look at their dickishness you can see they are dicks and it isn't game designs fault
If game design doesn't cause behaviour change than why give people attractiveness debuffs for wearing socks. If that causes changes than all the other design encourages being a dick in-game.
Notice how most of the people criticizing the game no longer player?

[In another thread]


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Area: Announcements - Note #2510

From: Tyr

To: all

Cc:

Subj: The Big Three

Time: Sun Mar 18 06:24:27 2018



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The Elm Street Apartment building has opened, offering a selection of new

homes for urban residents.



People will no longer be able to post on the forums unless they are actively

playing the game.



The hacking requirement for accessing network 666 has been dropped to 2.



Roleplaying in dream worlds now drops the time it takes to use makedoor to

travel to other places.



Two new options have been added to crisis, mist and nodrive.


Then this happens

Cuckacola Offline

Banned

Posts: 1

Threads: 0

Joined: Mar 2018

RE: Dead Game

HI... I'M GEORGE ZIMMER --- CEO AND FOUNDER OF THE MEN'S WAREHOUSE. TYR... IN LIGHT OF THE RECENT ANAL ANNIHILATION YOU'VE SUFFERED AT THE MANLY HANDS OF CRAYON AND HIS CADRE OF FOLLOWERS, SOMETHING THAT HAS LEFT YOUR ASSHOLE RESEMBLING THE BEATEN BOX OF YOUR WHORE WIFE AFTER I UNLEASHED MY GARGANTUAN GUT WRENCH ON HER, I KNEW I HAD TO PAY YOU A VISIT. I UNDERSTAND YOU FEEL INSUFFICIENT AS A MAN AFTER THE PROSTATE PENETRATION YOU'VE SUFFERED, AND I WANT TO ASSURE YOU THAT YOU'RE RIGHT. IT TAKES A CERTAIN TYPE OF MEAGER MALE TO RESTRICT CONVERSATIONS AMONG PEERS ABOUT THE MASSIVE MISCARRIAGE THAT IS HAVEN. WHEN YOU DECIDE YOU WANT TO RECLAIM YOUR MASSACRED MANHOOD, COME ON DOWN TO THE MEN'S WAREHOUSE. I'LL PUMP MACADORA'S PUNISHED POON FULL OF POLE MILK WHILE MY PROFESSIONALS FIT YOU FOR A FINELY TAILORED SUIT. I'LL EVEN LEAVE A NICKEL ON HER ASS TO HELP YOU COVER THE COST. YOU'RE GOING TO LOVE THE WAY HER GAPING GASH LOOKS. I GUARANTEE IT.


Then the DMZ is removed and we are to today.

Closing a subforum is whatever. Haven has a history of being moderated with a hysterical iron fist, so people should expect that sort of thing.

Forumbanning people for not currently playing is a bizarre and immature reaction, though. I've never heard of another MUD that does this. Great way to ensure that they completely depart from the community and never come back. Isn't Haven sustained by yearly reboots where people come back?

It's almost as bad as when SoI closed their entire forum, but at least there was something resembling a reason for that. Simply banning people who stopped playing your game because you don't want to listen to anyone who has objections with your game is infantile and weak-willed behavior.

I don't know this Tyr guy personally, but every time somebody mentions him, it's to point out what an insecure shitlord he is.

Even so, if I was someone who had taken a break from the game and found that it had earned me a posting ban for daring to not play for a while, I would be significantly less likely to return to a game where the staff pulls that sort of manchild shit.

Cybersphere

Staff response to attempted PC generation.

Ptolemais (3/21/2018 21:31:14 EDT) comments:
As is clearly stated in the help file for advanced character generation, "a clear and concise summation at the end of the character history in regards to the character's concept, basic archtype or role, personality traits/flaws, friends/enemies, outstanding debts, life-shaping events must be included." I can't imagine how we can make this more clear, and it has very little if anything to do with New Carthage itself. Concerning your biographical history, for a tier3 character it is severely lacking; for example your character "learned how to steal cars"--okay, how? Who taught him? As is also explained in the tier3 help file, character histories must be detailed and up to the advanced character generation standards. Ea was kind enough to very gently suggest that you might want to start in standard until you become more adjusted to the game environment. I am not so gentle: if this is going to be your attitude whenever an admin tries to unoffensively offer you some advice, then maybe this isn't the right game for you.

Jesus I wrote a damn essay to make a largely disabled PC, took hours to write that PC. The options for Standard PCs are way less fun and cool than Advanced, yet you need about twenty times more text than Armageddon PC generation to experience them.

Would not recommend, but the staffer Rain seems really cool. Not sure whether to bother making another PC here. In terms of code vehicles and cybernetics are more advanced than Sindome but helpfiles and the like are more basic, and the game seems more hack and slash in general, less rp, and it seems that old players are more permanent "haves" than in Arm. It clearly comes from the same codebase as Sindome and Hellmoo, I would reccomend Hellmoo for a hack and slash game over this and Sindome for more of a life simulator.

Sindome looks better in terms of the mud interface.\

Dunno. I am dissapointed by the whole "if that's your attitude" thing, since I wasn't giving any attitude.

I don't really care about not being approved but I just hate pissy staff attitudes in a niche medium.

Nope. Arx is quite big, but it's definitely not a RPI.

play.arxmush.org/

I wouldn't necessarily recommend it, but you're desperate for some roleplay, sure.

Laura, didnt they hire you to build for some sci-fi mud? Or am I confusing things.