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Post by Jeshin on Sept 19, 2019 0:56:47 GMT -5
So is SOI dead looks like Frigga/Nimrod left but I haven't seen posts from new staff at all?
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Post by Jeshin on Sept 18, 2019 22:55:06 GMT -5
Generally the threat of reprisal works as well as an actual reprisal. The staff could simply increase force projection with IC rumors of the guild striking out against those who wrong them. Doesn't even need to be PCs, throw some NPC corpses around. Setup a room trigger with like a 5% chance to echo some guild hit going on against someone that 'wronged' them. Make a few throw away PCs RP them for a couple week have them rabble rouse and start shit and then 86 them to show even PCs can be punished, just so happens these ones are RPed by staff no one needs to know... The message is clear. Once that's done you just put on some heavy animation pressure when you become aware of inappropriate flexing. If it's really needed you make a move, but the bar will be higher than the one you advertised.
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Post by Jeshin on Sept 18, 2019 18:53:30 GMT -5
I never said they were.
EDIT - I don't know why this is so difficult. I made a post explicitly referencing Bebop and the tryst. You made a post referencing two things. I never implied elf crimelord and bebop were on staff when it happened. In fact back in the day I explicitly said they weren't if you look at old posts. I have reading comprehension qwerty, do you?
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Post by Jeshin on Sept 18, 2019 18:26:39 GMT -5
I am thinking of Hishn, I apologize to Bebop. I just thought the bard fucking the crimelord elf was dumb.
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Post by Jeshin on Sept 18, 2019 18:03:49 GMT -5
I may be getting Bebop and someone else mixed up. Regardless of my dislike for Shalnoowhooshboosh I don't think dinging them for shagging is really on the table.
TLDR When I played Elrum 'banished' Irofel in Tuluk there was a rash of negative animations which I was informed was a single female staffer. It was whoever played Esme the gypsy at the time. It's been several years so whether it was indeed Bebop or someone else or I was misinformed I don't know. I did have a SEPARATE chip on my shoulder because of the whole etiquette bard sleeping with a criminal elf thing that everyone just let go on forever but that was more why is this allowed to happen shake fist at the sky than any wronged action against me.
Regardless good on Bebop for saying something despite my accurate and/or inaccurate beef with her.
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Post by Jeshin on Sept 18, 2019 17:23:19 GMT -5
I used to have a chip on my shoulder about Bebop from back when she staffed for a bit. But good on her giving some solid criticism on the GDB.
EDIT - Hishn is the staffer I had a chip on my shoulder with, I just griped about Bebop.
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Post by Jeshin on Sept 17, 2019 16:56:59 GMT -5
Why not to engage with the debate on GDB. Censorship! Temporary locking threads? Just outright locking threads... Staff being humorous about making a player concern even worse with super death kryl, but just kidding!
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Post by Jeshin on Sept 16, 2019 18:27:45 GMT -5
In the post where you quoted it specifically states.
Don't click that link directly if you don't want to be outed.
What could this mean? It means that if you do not want an IP address associated with this website for ANY reason. Do not click on the click from this forum to that forum. It seems fairly self-explanatory.
Whether the staff are evil or sleepy or awesome or neutral or whatever it's a simple fact that they can match web traffic if they so choose.
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Post by Jeshin on Sept 1, 2019 13:20:35 GMT -5
Mages are employable, gemmable, are not killed on sight, and evidently make up a large part of the Allanak force projection strategy. What is their balancing factor? You can pick any option for employment as a gemmed mage that you want, so long as that option is House Oash. Or you can be a mage in secret (which basically means almost never using magick, or living alone in the wilderness). "Not killed on sight"? Died on sight with my last gemmer. Templars use mages, Oash use mages, plenty of people pay mages under the table, indies pay mages, etc etc. Can you join a merchant house as a gemmed, no... Can you work for them and get that $$$ , yes. As for KoS I'll concede some people will KoS a mage. I know tribals will often be KoS in the Pah/Desert but that is a known killzone for mages and has been for years. I'm at least willing to say mages are (like nobles) open to a heightened level of aggression for being hands on. I haven't played in years so I'm not aware of how consistently hostile the playerbase is, back in my day though some mages got a pass in the wilds.
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Post by Jeshin on Sept 1, 2019 13:15:48 GMT -5
Once there was a young Faithful, he played it a little preachy/religiousy, he wanted to go to Luirs for his own reasons. During the escort he was attacked. He opened himself up to risk, he was attacked because someone recognized a tuluki leadership role and the whiran took their shot. The two rangers (I was one) were unable to save him. He died.
Raleris left the city semi-frequently and when I was playing an Oashi Aide, my whiran buddy cop had a huge IC hate on for Raleris. Had the stars aligned the whiran would have made a play to kill him, it'd been discussed IC a few times. Raleris leaving the city was opening him up to risk, if we had ever foundout he was 'in the open' there would have been an assassination attempt.
I imagine this would be true for nobles in the rinth, outside the walls, traveling to and from Luirs, etc etc. Being hands on opens you up to risk.
Some characters even have it in their backgrounds to have grudges against the noble class or specific houses etc etc. This means nobles who have never done anything wrong are prime targets for IC aggression. This extends to tribals who are like fuck the pits and the people in them. Etc etc.
As for 3rd party I have to disagree. The citizens call which I started was a third party thing which was later changed by staff into the levy (in my opinion). It seemed to do very well as a simple volunteer army/3rd party armies answer to the AoD or they get rekt because we don't permit organized armed forces to defy us yada yada conflict betrayal whatever.
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Post by Jeshin on Sept 1, 2019 12:49:39 GMT -5
Noble balancing factors...
1 - If they do things themselves they are opening themselves up to more risk. 2 - Nobles are prime targets for aggression, their opening to risk is higher than some nameless schlub. 3 - There have been combat-y nobles in the past. Raleris, Tor, etc etc. What made them so bad wasn't the balancing factor that they were war heroes and not particularly politically inclined beyond that?
Balancing Factors in General..
1 - Yes people play against docs 2 - You need to create disincentives to that 3 - They need to be applied consistently 4 - Claiming bad players are bad, but not changing the game to enforce their badness is not a solution 5 - Reality trumps intention every time
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Post by Jeshin on Sept 1, 2019 12:30:41 GMT -5
Can a mage be shunned by staff and some PCs. Sure.
Is it intermittent and often discussed even on the GDB that people are to friendly with elves, breeds, and mages and that there is no functional deterrent to this and in fact, it is advantageous for players to commit taboo things because of the power benefit of a mage friendly to yourself?
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Post by Jeshin on Sept 1, 2019 12:18:09 GMT -5
Mages are employable, gemmable, are not killed on sight, and evidently make up a large part of the Allanak force projection strategy. What is their balancing factor?
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Post by Jeshin on Aug 30, 2019 22:02:07 GMT -5
I'm not really a big fan on term limits either, but I also have a policy against deleting entire threads.
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Post by Jeshin on Aug 30, 2019 17:23:32 GMT -5
Come on. It's only 4 posts to read. And I was using a phone. But yes. I'll try to be more precise in other cases. Given you did the whole Jeshin totally supports hacking and linked to a giant multi-page forum thread, I'm not really sympathetic to you doing it anywhere.
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