Jeshin
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Post by Jeshin on Oct 4, 2019 11:17:08 GMT -5
Names, times and descriptions of complaint activity are more or less required for a positive resolution if you're ever going to get one. Also, anonymity on the game or web server is kind of an illusion because people with the backend access can just check anyway. You are also right that off-site anonymous and named complaints already exist as an option.
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Post by Jeshin on Oct 2, 2019 1:24:58 GMT -5
Qwerty which parts specifically do you agree with?
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Post by Jeshin on Oct 1, 2019 13:24:01 GMT -5
They're not together anymore, divorce or so the legend goes.
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Post by Jeshin on Sept 25, 2019 13:06:53 GMT -5
Maybe I'm old fashioned, but I think asking for credit card information is suitable for 'age verification'
I say this as someone who assumes kids under 16 don't have credit or debit cards these days, I could be wrong
I would never play a MU that requested scans of my physical ID, facebook/google are bad enough I don't need to add whoever runs Armageddon to the list of people who know way to much about me.
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Post by Jeshin on Sept 24, 2019 10:28:19 GMT -5
EDIT - Watch it, just believe me.
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Post by Jeshin on Sept 23, 2019 15:24:50 GMT -5
I really don't have a problem with andro, you can attribute it to SJW stuff or the fact some chicks are mannish and some dudes are feminine and an andro option is also good for people that maybe want to do disguises to pass as one or another. When I was failing to produce Project Redshift we intended to have an andro option just because it cost us nothing to provide it.
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Post by Jeshin on Sept 23, 2019 0:41:09 GMT -5
So to ask the obvious question...
Staff have modified the minimum age.
Are players and staff complaining about being forced to do so?
Does the implicit issue of the 13 year old minimum age not warrant the update by itself?
If the change has been decided and you have successfully nipped problematic labeling/association in the bud why continue to attack the source or complain of sources?
Continuing to draw attention to the situation while supposedly making decisions to resolve the situation just keeps the original problem on the mind and doesn't allow you to move away from it. Would you continue to do this weird post resolution complaining on a mainstream forum and not trolling the shadowboard?
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Post by Jeshin on Sept 21, 2019 13:50:14 GMT -5
In the free speech angle. You are entitled to your speech but not the social response to follow. Armageddon could 100% be like it is the setting, we do not believe it's happening, end of story. This would cause a skeptical or condemning response but no one is pointing a gun to Armageddon's head. The only influence being applied is the label and ostracizing of the game for not conforming. Whether it's because a pedophilia scene exists or because the game will not change for creative integrity. The fact that the game has changed per the staff announcement is to distance itself from the label and ostracizing dialogue... Presumably maybe Godaddy got involved, iunno.
In the event of I am playing a 14 year old going about my day sometimes I suck dick to make sid sometimes I shiv a fool to steal his boots... But this one guy/girl is being extra pervy. I would probably just have your character be like bish I don't like you, you probably want to slit my throat after getting your rocks off or something to that equalivant. If that isn't your cup of tea report it to staff. Any game which allows underage characters should probably just accept a portion of staff time will end up being dedicated to policing complaints about and regarding those characters and people being creepy.
It all boils down to how does the staff want to spend their time. Nix it or administrate it.
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Post by Jeshin on Sept 21, 2019 13:08:18 GMT -5
I do want to briefly point out that bringing change to Armageddon is not some war. Some of the very thinly veiled narrative tactics are pretty unnecessary in this thread. Especially when staff have already made the decision and now you're going to whine that they were forced into it? Armageddon is not singled out when it comes to young PCs and it is not the only MUD to get this heat. To imagine that it is and that it is in fact the shadowboards that is the big evil enemy that would dare bring up pedophilia is ignoring the fact that our hobby does still bring new people in, it's rare but it happens, and that the average person is going to be like uh what? when they hear about 13 year old adults on a game where we all know mudsex is an everyday occurence. CASE AND POINT - musoapbox.net/topic/2877/cyberrun?page=1The MUSH side of the genre a game called Cyberrun created by Tyr the owner of HavenRPG. It is an impressive push towards a webclient based next generation experiment but the owner in his idiocy in the opening blurb/pitch puts this line "Death has all but been eradicated while bioengineering and cyber-augmentations mean running into an 85 year old in a 12 year old body..." OBVIOUSLY he eventually cracked and the line now shows Death has all but been eradicated while bioengineering and cyber-augmentations mean running into an 85 year old in a 19 year old body or a hulking minotaur is an everyday occurence. The Text-based Gaming community as a whole MUDs or MUSHes do not accept the whiff of underage erotica especially on any game that makes any claim to serious/quality roleplaying. The shadowboard is not unique, Armageddon is not unique, you are not being persecuted you are being conformed to cultural norms.
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Post by Jeshin on Sept 20, 2019 20:54:46 GMT -5
These boards were most active when Armageddon playerbase was larger. That would be a pretty good indication that the activity of the board is linked to the activity of the game meaning playing users. The fact some of us old quitters still post is probably different from person to person.
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Post by Jeshin on Sept 20, 2019 12:19:32 GMT -5
Since that one thread where whoever went off about pedo stuff etc etc a few years ago. My stance is always thus. If you believe there is an issue, report it to either the authorities or the groups organized to tamp down on internet pedophilia. If you want to throw in a post shouting from the mountain tops you believe something is wrong too than bully for you, but the first act should always be reporting.
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Post by Jeshin on Sept 19, 2019 21:09:45 GMT -5
Consent is not to allow something to happen. It is to allow the graphic depiction of something to happen. You can refuse consent for graphic mudsex or torture and still hit the highlights. Jeshin likes it up against the wall. He's quick on the first romp, better staying power on the second. He has no idea what he's doing so if you moan he just does that the rest of the night. Tressy tress is an eager beaver, no really her beaver is eager. She moans a lot, it backfires on her, she fakes it in the end but it's believable. <--- you have seen a ftb sex scene I have forced this upon you.
Torture could be like
Jeshin would laugh really evilly, he's all about monologuing but does little actual torture-y bits. Fingers, ears, threatens the eyes. You wind up blind. Thug who was imprisoned doesn't talk, he's a guild man and he never sells out! He curses Jeshin and his bullshit act, when he's finally released blind he picks up a job as a street beggar and spy of whispered secrets.
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Post by Jeshin on Sept 19, 2019 18:06:52 GMT -5
I'm failing to see how posting after a character has died will allow him to remain anonymous from repeated staff discrimination against people that post negatively or critically on this board. If he intends to make -another- character and play despite not thinking the game is the bees knees. You're staff or staff adjacent and have a habit of trying to weasel people into outing themselves in PMs and outright encouraging them to do so. It's kind of silly to think me or someone else wouldn't chime in with hey keep your privacy if you intend to play past your first experience. Been playing. Still post here. Not banned. I've heard of players posting here being banned but I haven't experienced it. Then again.. I don't share IC info, haven't done that in a decade or more, I don't attack the game and staff mindlessly foaming at the mouth, I don't actively try to prevent new players from coming to the game. You reap what you sow. You are one person. There are plenty of reports on this forum of people who did not foam at the mouth against the game who were harassed by staff. Advocating for caution with a checkered history is not crying wolf from the hilltops it's advocating caution. In addition you're quoting me are you trying to tell me I am foaming at the mouth about the game or trying to prevent new players from playing there? If so maybe go read my post history a bit closer because I'm the wrong user on the board to be throwing that label on. EDIT - Just so I'm not completely deraily in my chime in after Qwerty... Jeshin's guide to playing Armageddon MUD CURRENTLY 1 - If you want a high population and more mainstream experience go to Nak. 2 - If you're interested in an indie experience go to Luir's via garrison or straightup OC tribal 3 - Ask questions, offer help, find a merchant... Armageddon has always operated under the cycle of you bring me the stuff, I turn the stuff into sid, you get gear, I get wealth. If you're not in a House with a set duty/cycle of activity you want to find merchants/crafters. You want to be like what do you need, offer it to them in abundance, reap the rewards of a symbiotic relationship. From there once your 'game cycle' is established you can branch out to RP goals like... Bang the aid, make friends with the tribal, become independantly wealthy, secretly work for the templar. The key to enjoying Armageddon is sustainable play cycle that gives you a clear path of activity everytime you login whether you have an RP partner or not.
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Post by Jeshin on Sept 19, 2019 15:40:31 GMT -5
I'm failing to see how posting after a character has died will allow him to remain anonymous from repeated staff discrimination against people that post negatively or critically on this board. If he intends to make -another- character and play despite not thinking the game is the bees knees. You're staff or staff adjacent and have a habit of trying to weasel people into outing themselves in PMs and outright encouraging them to do so. It's kind of silly to think me or someone else wouldn't chime in with hey keep your privacy if you intend to play past your first experience.
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Post by Jeshin on Sept 19, 2019 15:34:34 GMT -5
Given the repeated tales of people who have posted here with negativity or criticism. Perhaps do not post your play experience here unless you are positive on the game. If you are negative but found some friends to play with and intend to still play, I'd stay mum personally.
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