Right.

This isn't about Tuluk specifically, but I'm not enthused about the north-south conflict as a way to generate action. I've never been keen on PKing or PvP to start with. So now, if I play in the AoD, off I go to PvP, like it or not. If I play as a Gemmed, off I go. If I play as a Byn, my Sergeant is hired and off I go. If I play in a noble's entourage, I get attached as an auxiliary and off I go. Same for characters in the north, presumably.

I don't really want to play as fodder for battle after PvP battle, especially when it seems the individual battles have no impact on the outcome of the war. Why raise another character just to be some twink dwarf's one-hit kill?

The battles themselves aren't really compensation for the grind preceding them. In the volcano battle, for example, I watched the AoD officers abandon their own units and stay with the Great Templar, just before we all went in (gee, thanks). The AoD troops were put under the command of a slave and a private promoted on the spot to corporal, who had never really led them before or even seemed to have had that much experience at leading. The Allanaki went in in two waves, and the Byn were already largely slaughtered by the time the slave led the rest in. The gemmed, as usual, had been largely mucked up by the Lirathuans. It was a disorganized muddle which led to the Tuluki rolling the Allanaki. More frustrating than fun.

There is also the simple fact (I know I've referenced this a lot) but prior to the volcano HRPT Tuluk had created the citizens call weekly / biweekly RPT which had all those nifty oldbies explaining shit to masses of people and sparring and encouraged a lot of people to spar on and off in their free time as well. That coupled with the other fact that northlands breed stronger fighters because risk of death is lower if you're competent also leads to Tuluk winning in PC v. PC conflicts with the south.

its all a mute point because like ambro said the citizen call was closed down by the staff. player driven stuff is too hard to control so it must be squashed. it was too much player autonomy. I'm all for lasting consequences but the only ones that the staff allow are the ones they decide beforehand like the nuked muark. and as gloryhound said it will all boil down to some perordained nyrpt battle anyway. that stuff is too important to leave in the hands of the players

This is really ironic given that in the past staff have done all they could to cripple any meaningful North-South dynamic or conflict. 

What's even more ironic is that there is some cocksucking mouthbreather out there who just read that and thought, "I better get that Tuluki app in right away, I might get karma!"

The harsh truth is that if the mental midgets that make most of Armageddon's major design decisions (Such as Nyr or Adhira) had even an ounce of inspiration or vision, they would have let Tuluk stay a ruin and continued to concentrate the playerbase in the South.

Much of what made Armageddon suck stemmed from the attempt to set up a two city-state conflict, and thus have two sets of templars, two sets of nobles, two House organizations, two Byns, etc. It's never worked. There's never been any meaningful dynamic that wasn't entirely scripted or obvious (the 'Copper war', lol), and resulted in even more idiots than usual attaining positions of authority.

Meanwhile, established southern Houses that were actually interesting, like Borsail, got shunted aside while horribly written Northern noble houses got pushed up.

So much of the game that was good and interesting got castrated by their attempt to monetize their bad fiction, instead of just staying true to the Dark Sun setting. And they didn't even have the sack to follow through on creating their own vision (witness Arm 2's sad demise). 

They sure have crippled most north south conflict but its not coz they hate the idea of war. they just hate the lack of control. there was a nyrpt 2 years ago and now the imms say they again have big plans and they need tuluki pcs. That means they need some more cogs to plug into there next script theyre writing now. who do you guys think will be scripted to win the next nyrpt?

i concur.

Well given theyre trying to drive people to play Tulukis i'd say Tuluk will. There will probably be some unique tuluki only thing to try and get people interestd in Tuluk. Definitely something sponsord only, possibly something Tuluki-only at the normal charactr level.