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Post by jcarter on Sept 17, 2014 10:58:54 GMT -5
i think up until a couple of years ago you retained that full amount even when you were a legend. it got brought up before, and staff were ambiguous about how it works now.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 17, 2014 11:22:23 GMT -5
You're the first person in favor of this change to say so on these boards. Why do you favor it? (also, if you commented on the gdb thread as well, avoid writing anything that would identify you.) I like the new sorcerers and while I don't agree that the best thing to do is to remove old 'true' sorcerers, if that's what they feel like that need to do, so be it. I wish staff did things differently, like staff of yore, but they're not staff of yore. They've got their own talents, abilities and limitations. Hopefully the new version of the game is good or better than what came before. I also hope it doesn't change too much.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 17, 2014 11:29:10 GMT -5
jcarter's right about the karma (how to get it, though you can ask, it's v difficult to impossible to get any karma beyond 4 even asking about it). There's a handful of people who have not staffed, who have 8 karma, like cutthroat, the person who played qoriya, path's husband and a few others. Other than maybe 10 people the only ones with 8 karma are staff. You used to keep that when you left, but in a policy that literally started with me, you revert back to your karma of yore.
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Post by Jeshin on Sept 17, 2014 11:45:36 GMT -5
Path's husband staffed within the last 2 years, so you can remove him from that list.
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Post by Kronibas 2.0 on Sept 17, 2014 11:56:09 GMT -5
I've had tons of hot gfs who have 8 karma and staffed.
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Post by BitterFlashback on Sept 17, 2014 12:31:50 GMT -5
also lol apparently malken got banned from the gdb. welcome to the club m8, you toed the snark line for quite awhile, but you flew too close to the sun. LOL to the Icarus part, sorry to hear it to the ban part. do you have the post where his ban was announced by some imm casually beating off to their own authority? You're the first person in favor of this change to say so on these boards. Why do you favor it? (also, if you commented on the gdb thread as well, avoid writing anything that would identify you.) I like the new sorcerers and while I don't agree that the best thing to do is to remove old 'true' sorcerers, if that's what they feel like that need to do, so be it. Oh, we're almost in agreement then. i actually love the new sorc subguilds but I hate tht they threw out the sorc main guild. Id have preferred there being both. I've had tons of hot gfs who have 8 karma and staffed. I notice this was posted from mobile. Which of your private islands did you send this from?
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Post by lulz on Sept 17, 2014 20:11:02 GMT -5
I'm still not clear on how you get karma these days. 1 point for simply playing for a while. 1 point for not being a fucktard (which is a feat in itself for some). Then you have to ask for it (lol). Where does the other six karma come from? It's completely subjective. At the time I was banned I'd made it to 6, but there wasn't a chance in hell I was getting anything over that due to my penchant for pking and the explicit/crude nature of my pcs. I think I had to ask for my first karma, then Sanvean gave me my second. Nessalin took one away for twinking, then I earned it back. Played a templar for almost a year and got 2 for that, then special apped an elkrosi when I was sitting at 4. They took it away as is the way things are done after the pc died, but somehow I ended up earning that fifth point. Shalooonsh gave me my sixth and final point after Bones in 2006, which means it took six years to accrue six karma. If I hadn't been playing where Shalooonsh was watching, I doubt I'd have been given that point, despite the fact that that scene was quite a defining moment. At least, that was my experience. Others' may differ.
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Post by Hardboiled on Sept 20, 2014 6:16:42 GMT -5
Well, being a hater of sorcerers, sorcerer-kings and high powered magicks in general I am happy with this change. However, I agree with lulz it could have been handled better at the very least in regards to the players already playing the old sorcerer class.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 20, 2014 16:28:12 GMT -5
This seems like a continuation of a general theme: i.e. leaving nothing to strive for. Wealth? Useless beyond a certain point, and even deemed bad RP if a commoner has it. Status? Not born into it, Sergeant is as high as you go now. Even those born into it have glass ceilings. Property? No chance there, for wagons or shops or what have you. Rare items? (e.g. books, metal weapons)? Nothing out there for the random adventurer except some common grebbing and hunting. Coded power? Bye bye high weapons skills. Bye bye being able to take on many opponents at once. Bye bye sorcerers now. The thing about using sorcery is that, once you start, you'd better be living in isolation. Whether one is a full sorcerer or quarter sorcerer, it's the same thing. So it's the same deal with less than a quarter of the coded power (no synergy between the different spell types to be had now). Independent success? Everyone is doing their best to shit on indies. Achievement isnt valued. Elementalists are complimented if they don't cast spells. Characters are lauded when they only use listen, scan, contact and barrier.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 20, 2014 16:49:49 GMT -5
That's kind of the meat and potatoes of it, with the details being: not only is it not valued, any place it can be done outside simple social interactions is being methodically stripped away, piece by piece.
Just one more square in the quilt depicting the slow decline of the state of things in Arm (at least for people like me, who come out as explorer, achiever, socializer, killer, in bartle testing), when the game world is being applauded for the change involved in deletion of massive chunks, and achievement is systematically made impossible.
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Post by nyrsucks on Sept 20, 2014 17:30:14 GMT -5
Well, being a hater of sorcerers, sorcerer-kings and high powered magicks in general I am happy with this change. However, I agree with lulz it could have been handled better at the very least in regards to the players already playing the old sorcerer class. Me too. In fact they should nerf all the elementalists and psionics too frankly and allow them to have a main guild. Mundane only Armageddon with the ability to rise HIGH, build things, armies, changes and etc would be preferable to these solo rp guilds.
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Post by BitterFlashback on Sept 20, 2014 17:35:34 GMT -5
... with the ability to rise HIGH, build things, armies, changes and etc would be preferable to these solo rp guilds. Player achievement? player-driven activity?! YOU WANT US TO WORK?!?! WITCH! HE'S A WITCH! BURN THE WITCH!
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Post by Kronibas 2.0 on Sept 20, 2014 17:39:33 GMT -5
Nyr: sorcs are being removed because it fits the game direction and our vision for the game. what is our vision of the game? to keep it moving m8. btw, you're banned
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Post by mood on Sept 20, 2014 17:45:33 GMT -5
did he ban that guy. i really hope he did.
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Post by topkekm8s on Sept 23, 2014 22:38:43 GMT -5
also lol apparently malken got banned from the gdb. welcome to the club m8, you toed the snark line for quite awhile, but you flew too close to the sun. wow
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