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Post by lyse on Nov 14, 2014 11:59:47 GMT -5
Here's another one. Parry: where we at on it? When you get parried does it count as a success or failure or partial success?
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Kronibas 2.0
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Post by Kronibas 2.0 on Nov 14, 2014 12:56:51 GMT -5
You have to be dodged. That's why there's such an emphasis on agility.
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jkarr
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Post by jkarr on Nov 14, 2014 13:40:58 GMT -5
Here's another one. Parry: where we at on it? When you get parried does it count as a success or failure or partial success? um if they parry u then ur skill % isnt affected but yes if they parry u it counts as a success for them |
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Post by gloryhound on Nov 14, 2014 13:52:01 GMT -5
After progressing with parry as far as possible, getting hit no longer counts as a failed parry check, right? It can't, else anyone with parry could never advance at defense at all.
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Post by lyse on Nov 14, 2014 14:31:08 GMT -5
Here's another one. Parry: where we at on it? When you get parried does it count as a success or failure or partial success? um if they parry u then ur skill % isnt affected but yes if they parry u it counts as a success for themSorry, failed phone short hand. I meant as far as weapon skills go. I've seen a couple of posts that said it did count as a failure. So I wasn't sure. |
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Post by jkarr on Nov 14, 2014 15:22:32 GMT -5
oh yeah then u have to miss to fail
dont bet on parry being a partial fail either
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Post by grumble on Nov 14, 2014 16:13:25 GMT -5
low agi pryorty iz y msot uv u kant git past jman wepenz. 420 hevy playt erday.
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Post by mesuinu on Feb 8, 2015 5:33:04 GMT -5
I have a warrior who seems to have hung on jman main weapon skill for a very long time, with the others still at novice due to being unused. I am at a point with sparring where I don't miss attacks and end up 2-3 rounding most PCs I fight against. Only one of the PCs I routinely spar can take more than 2-3 rounds of abuse from my character. I would eventually like to branch an advanced weapon skill and was told to solely use one type of weapon because of this. My PC has clan limitations, and I'm also a noob, so going out and finding a stilt lizard on my own isn't a likely option.
I have been attempting to weigh myself down, but this doesn't appear to do anything to help with misses. Instead it just seems to increase the time between attacks delivered from my PC.
My questions are:
1) My understanding of defense is that I also need to skill up the weapons I don't use in order to increase my personal defense vs. those weapons. Is it more worthwhile to switch to doing this than attempting to break the jman level I seem to be stuck at?
2) Am I actually skilling up at all at this point offensively with my weapon skill when I can't actually continue to attack and thereby acquire misses (without seriously injuring my sparring opponent)?
3) If I'm no longer skilling up due to not being able to attack, what else can I do at this point?
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Post by Patuk on Feb 8, 2015 5:49:55 GMT -5
1) My understanding of defense is that I also need to skill up the weapons I don't use in order to increase my personal defense vs. those weapons. Is it more worthwhile to switch to doing this than attempting to break the jman level I seem to be stuck at? 2) Am I actually skilling up at all at this point offensively with my weapon skill when I can't actually continue to attack and thereby acquire misses (without seriously injuring my sparring opponent)? 3) If I'm no longer skilling up due to not being able to attack, what else can I do at this point? 1) Yes, if you're not missing anyway, using other weapons in spars is a more productive use of your time. 2) No, you aren't. 3) Have fistfights with people. Unless everyone in your clan is an assassin or ranger without parry, chances are parry and shield use are very good, but defense skill is low. Beating each other to shit unarmed raises base defence and means that they may actually dodge your shit later on. |
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Post by Deleted on Feb 8, 2015 7:39:10 GMT -5
I have a warrior who seems to have hung on jman main weapon skill for a very long time, with the others still at novice due to being unused. I am at a point with sparring where I don't miss attacks and end up 2-3 rounding most PCs I fight against. Only one of the PCs I routinely spar can take more than 2-3 rounds of abuse from my character. I would eventually like to branch an advanced weapon skill and was told to solely use one type of weapon because of this. My PC has clan limitations, and I'm also a noob, so going out and finding a stilt lizard on my own isn't a likely option. I have been attempting to weigh myself down, but this doesn't appear to do anything to help with misses. Instead it just seems to increase the time between attacks delivered from my PC. My questions are: 1) My understanding of defense is that I also need to skill up the weapons I don't use in order to increase my personal defense vs. those weapons. Is it more worthwhile to switch to doing this than attempting to break the jman level I seem to be stuck at? 2) Am I actually skilling up at all at this point offensively with my weapon skill when I can't actually continue to attack and thereby acquire misses (without seriously injuring my sparring opponent)? 3) If I'm no longer skilling up due to not being able to attack, what else can I do at this point? Accuracy = base offense + weapon skill + strength mod + two handed skill mod +- weapon accuracy modifier +- riding/sitting/prone modifier. If your pc uses a two handed weapon or bashes people in the sparring ring, stop doing those things. Find a way to spar with your high ride opponents mounted. Make sure they have +ride gear. Get your opponents to use agi spice. Recruit a high agi guild warrior with lots of playtime, or make an alliance with a clan that has one, so you can grind on them. Find a (possibly flimsy) excuse to get out of the city. Stilt lizards, turaal, cheotan lizards, sandy spiders, or maaaybe rantarri if your pc is a complete badass. Find a (very likely flimsy) excuse to spar in the dark. Being blind is a large accuracy penalty. Buy heavy or unwieldy sparring weapons from Salaar, to get the accuracy penalty. Its probably salvageable, but if you spend alot of time in unarmed sparring, you will jack your base offense up to the point your weapon skills wont move anymore. Unless you can recruit a seriously powerful warrior, noble or templar, give up hope of mastering pike or polearm. |
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Post by calk on Feb 8, 2015 11:10:47 GMT -5
Turning your character into a raging alcoholic may help too. My understanding is being drunk slows your progress, but slow progress is better than none and you'll certainly be missing if you're drunk enough.
Also it's more fun than any of the other options listed.
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Post by Patuk on Feb 8, 2015 11:45:43 GMT -5
The one alcoholic character I saw got booted from her clan by her sergeant without him even blinking, so you may want to be careful about that.
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Post by Jeshin on Feb 8, 2015 12:05:43 GMT -5
1. Have multiple people spar you at once, 2v1, 3v1, even 4v1 if you have enough people. The penalty will give you a better chance of missing.
2. Hunting. It is sad but true that the most reliable and realistic way to master a weapon is to do so on NPCs because based on your strength you can select the appropriate one for a challenge.
3. Just accept that you won't master a weapon. I have found that warriors most of all have a very crucial early game when it comes to grinding. If you aren't able to keep your weaponskill gains above your offense gains then your offense will outstrip the weapon and it becomes almost impossible to get raises in the weapon you want short of some heavy metagaming.
4. Go find a breed or elf with high agi and make em dance.
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Post by mesuinu on Feb 8, 2015 12:22:50 GMT -5
Okay. Can someone clarify for me how using your off hand affects weapon skills? When my PC does miss it seems to be largely with the off hand. I haven't seen a primary miss in awhile when using dual wield and am not sure if I should be using a shield at all when sparring at this point.
Also, by unwieldy sparring weapons, do you mean the heavy bone ones? I have been avoiding using bone weapons due to some IG complaints that they do more damage than wood ones.
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Post by punished ppurg on Feb 8, 2015 13:03:48 GMT -5
The one alcoholic character I saw got booted from her clan by her sergeant without him even blinking, so you may want to be careful about that. THEN you can go and twink up to your heart's content. A win win. |
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