copper
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Post by copper on Sept 23, 2013 5:25:45 GMT -5
Does anyone know if skilling up weapons works differently than say...parrying or shield use. I know they take a long time to move, but was just curious. Are all skills improved by fails? I feel like I hit a wall, but I'm not sure how to proceed. Do I continue to beat up easy targets, or do I search for harder opponents? What constitutes a fail for weapons?? Any info would be greatly appreciated... I haven't been playing very long, so I'm trying to figure out the little quirks of the game. If this was already addressed, sorry for asking again  |
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Hardboiled
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Post by Hardboiled on Sept 23, 2013 5:43:15 GMT -5
Skills are improved by failing. In the case of archery/throw, not hitting the neck is considered a partial fail I believe. In terms of weapons, someone or something needs to dodge your attack. And really thats all you need, someone to dodge you, anything with higher agility is what you should be looking for, not really harder. If someone is just parrying you, then you won't learn anything, maybe someone can correct me on that though.
Weapon skills take a very very long time to master, 30-40days played to maybe come close to mastering one weapon, and you basically need to find quicker or more skilled opponents as you improve yourself. You won't be improving on sparring dummies or novices very much once you hit journeyman.
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copper
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Post by copper on Sept 23, 2013 7:55:34 GMT -5
Thank you very much. After all that's been said, I'm going to have a really hard time for certain reason that won't be named, lol.
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Post by latrineswimmer on Nov 20, 2013 19:18:51 GMT -5
Don't forget you can RP an occasional drinking problem, you fight like shit when falling down drunk.
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Post by metamasher on Nov 25, 2013 22:35:48 GMT -5
I understand that the timer is set on 1 hour, but do you need to spend that 1 hour IG or does it run down while you're logged out?
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Post by lulz on Nov 25, 2013 23:03:57 GMT -5
The timer depends, but generally it's around 1 hour (based on wisdom IIRC). Even if logged out the timer is still active, I believe.
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copper
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Post by copper on Nov 29, 2013 0:37:41 GMT -5
Having a high agility pretty much screws you over in most cases, doesn't it? If most people can't dodge your attacks because you are so fast, you'll never gain. I'll have to try the drinking thing though.
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Post by lulz on Nov 29, 2013 2:51:34 GMT -5
Agility does not determine whether you hit someone or not, it merely determines how many swings you get. Strength determines whether you land or not, as well as how hard you land. At least, this is what I've been told in the past.
Strength/base offense factor into whether you hit.
Agility factors into whether you get a chance to swing/dodge -- defense is factored into the latter.
The reason immortals don't want you training barehanded is because it WILL increase your offense, and they don't want people to do this against animals as it is deemed "unrealistic".
Tired of seeing the same damned questions asked all the time, maybe someone should make a massive post explaining how combat works in detail? I'm too lazy.
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Post by jcarter on Nov 29, 2013 12:21:43 GMT -5
stickied this because it seems to answer the core question nearly every newbie has.
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mood
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Post by mood on Dec 19, 2013 15:38:15 GMT -5
Making yourself drunk will not improve combat skills. Making yourself drunk causes more failures but you will not gain from them as often as a safeguard. What's the best way to maximize fails? Does encumbrance work? |
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Post by topkekm8s on Dec 23, 2013 14:10:05 GMT -5
The -VERY- few times I have roleplayed drunk while sparring I got some fucking snarky holier-than-thou vibes because everyone knew what I was doing
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Post by jcarter on Dec 23, 2013 14:59:38 GMT -5
The -VERY- few times I have roleplayed drunk while sparring I got some fucking snarky holier-than-thou vibes because everyone knew what I was doing dont you know it's entirely unrealistic for mercenaries to drink/be drunk on duty especially in a harsh and depressing world where alcohol is the only escape and there's no social taboos or mores against it??? |
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Post by Deleted on Dec 23, 2013 16:43:19 GMT -5
Is your character usually drunk anyway, even when he's not about to spar, or make any other use of any other coded skills? Or do you show up at the barracks, suck down a few flagons of firebreather, and then commence to sparring?
If he's drunk often, when he's not about to do something skill-based, then it's no big deal. But if the only time he's drunk is just before doing something skill-based, then it's pretty obvious what you're doing and you shouldn't be surprised if someone gives you shit about it.
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Post by nobodyatall on Dec 24, 2013 23:28:24 GMT -5
Yes thank you for the obvious and pointless reply.
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Post by RogueCumSlinger on Apr 14, 2014 14:13:40 GMT -5
Any clue if being high on spice reduces skill gain? I honestly have no clue why more people don't use spice. Three or four pinches never hurt.
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