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Post by Deleted on Feb 13, 2016 5:46:00 GMT -5
I would never bring legal action or even bluff about it because I love the game so much You love a game filled with disgusting adults engaging in simulated sex acts with minors? You sick fuck.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 13, 2016 6:05:31 GMT -5
No, I didn't attempt to charactertize the entire game as such, but it is an unfortunate aspect of it that occurred to me, personally, and I think any and all future depictions of sex with minors should be avoided at all costs, not only for the game's sake, but especially, for the individuals at hand.
I would really hope that further safeguards have been put in place since that original post, but one of the main purposes was to draw attention to the fact that it DOES happen and, as adults, we should be VERY MINDFUL of these facts before pursuing graphic sexual content in the game with just any player.
Do we want a wholesome game in the sense that no murderers, prostitutes, or drug dealers exist? No.
Do we want a game where minors are not conducting graphic, sexual scenes with adults? Yes, I can't conceive of many adults actively condoning that.
If I wasn't clear before: minors on ArmageddonMUD should be protected against participating in graphic, sexual acts. That doesn't seem like a hard idea to get behind.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 13, 2016 6:15:27 GMT -5
is there anything else you would like to discuss about this? maybe you'd like to defend children simulating sex acts with adults through text as being somehow acceptable?
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Post by Deleted on Feb 13, 2016 6:27:32 GMT -5
No, I didn't attempt to charactertize the entire game as such Sounds like you calling them all a bunch of pedos to me. Maybe not ALL of them, but certainly more than any of us are comfortable acknowledging. And yet you still love them so much. WTF? Naah. Just confused as to why this victim still loves the game so much. Stockholm syndrome or something? Might want to see someone about that.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 13, 2016 6:40:39 GMT -5
Maybe I would just like to prevent it from happening again so:
A) the adult in the situation isn't horrified to learn they've been simulating sex acts with minors
B) younger players don't feel like it's EXPECTED of them in some instances.
I will never forget being fourteen and having another player on staff communicate to me that a certain PC remarked that i was just "laying there" while she was trying to put the mudsex moves on me.
...NO SHIT, I WAS FOURTEEN.
You can try to characterize what I was saying however you want. People don't abstain from using the internet because child porn is present, but that doesn't mean they endorse child porn. People use Tor to access the Deep Web everyday but the vast majority don't go for the CP cites.
but at the end of the day, trying to attack me for saying that kinda crap is bullshit and needs to stop in order for us to have a healthy game... just seems strange and reaching in a way.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 13, 2016 7:17:04 GMT -5
it's ArmageddonMUD, not NAMBLAgeddonMUD
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Post by Prime Minister Sinister on Feb 13, 2016 8:01:15 GMT -5
so what is your suggestion kron?
do we put a waiver up that any child can just click "i am 18" like every child from since the internet was born has done?
do we fuck the game out of any new players ever registering by requiring photocopies of birth certificates and drivers licenses?
do we make the minimum starting age in-game 18 and gloss over the fact that young players will still get into shit they probably shouldn't?
should ooc are you a little boy be added to the consent rule?
like....
what do we do to stop this rampant and systematic destroying of lives here?
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Post by Prime Minister Sinister on Feb 13, 2016 8:08:37 GMT -5
or do we just ignore it entirely and acknowledge that in this day and age getting text-laid by text person in a virtual text world with cultural elements reminiscent of ancient Rome and other assorted weird tribal shit in probably one of the most dated and obscure gaming mediums still alive today is probably the most mild thing a tween has ever seen or done on the internet?
or can i dare suggest that without being branded uncle bad touch?
idk anymore
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Post by Deleted on Feb 13, 2016 8:49:07 GMT -5
Holmes is the root word that homeboy and then homie came from i think. Uh, no. Has nothing to do with someone named Holmes. The term refers to someone living in the same home territory/town/neighborhood.
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Post by mood on Feb 13, 2016 9:46:29 GMT -5
Holmes is the root word that homeboy and then homie came from i think. Uh, no. Has nothing to do with someone named Holmes. The term refers to someone living in the same home territory/town/neighborhood. lmao i'm dying oh god
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Post by grumble on Feb 13, 2016 10:05:02 GMT -5
Honestly, I think text-sex with minors is the least of our worries here, as, consider the whole Grand Theft Auto scenario, well, at least they're not doing it for real, which they very well might be without a sandbox environment. I became very aware of my sexual interests, painfully aware, at the age of six. Many of you likely were spared that until you were willing and understood the potential consequences, if so, good for you. I was not so lucky, I got caught, shamed, and it took years upon years of self-analysis before I could finally forgive myself for what was, at its worst, a naive mistake... but if someone had said, when catching me playing with myself, well, it's completely natural, but trust me when I say you should wait until you're older, I would have felt a lot better... than being shamed for just exploring.
If minors are looking for text-sex, there's much easier places to look... but it's why we have consent rules, you can always OOC no, I'd rather fade, or, OOC: No, that's grosser than broccoli, and people should respect that.
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Post by Jeshin on Feb 13, 2016 10:14:03 GMT -5
In the Armageddon promotes pedos thread didn't I provide you with the contact information for the national child abuse hotline and point out that if you truly believe what you're saying (Kronibas) that you should report it. Like the old...
I don't condone shooting people in the head. I believe people are being shot in the head. I would never report people being shot in the head though. Then you are failing your own moral imperative to not condone the shooting of people in the dead.
To use >_> you know a less pedo-y example of the situation. As always, report all suspected or actual cases of child abuse to the proper authorities so they can judge things for themselves and help the afflicted children. Discussing it on a board, if you really believe it could be going on is about on par with admitting you're bullshitting or rabblerousing.
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Post by grumble on Feb 13, 2016 10:17:02 GMT -5
Trust me, somewhere on the internet, minors are doing things, and you can't stop them because you're not their dad... not in Arm though, most are too lazy to venture into such a horrifically difficult environment to survive in, although, I bet it DOES happen from time to time, Kronibas is living proof. For those exceptions, well, they likely knew the risks when they signed up, and not only signed up, but made a character and got good enough to survive long enough, then OOC'ed the words, consent.
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Post by Jeshin on Feb 13, 2016 10:17:55 GMT -5
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Post by jesantu on Feb 13, 2016 10:35:34 GMT -5
Arm has actually toned it down in that regard. I remember the Naki bazaar had a catamite npc wandering around....someone obviously removed him from the database. Prian Borsail had a little boy pleasure slave he toted around back in the day, which I genuinely doubt would happen in today's version of the game.
I think it's like pms says. We don't really need the game to be even more corporatey for purposes of legal protection, with a little 'click here to agree' button after every action you take.
I guess I just think there are more crucial discussions we could be having.
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