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Post by slipshod on Oct 18, 2013 14:59:12 GMT -5
i didnt see your post before making mine but a simple back read would have made it very clear to you
this isnt the gdb there is no reason to post with attitude here ok ?
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Post by slipshod on Oct 19, 2013 14:59:39 GMT -5
i did not intend to give that impression ?
you may be misunderstanding or i may not be wording my sentences properly enough for understanding so i will apologize if i am seen as rude
i do not give snide one word responses or make condescending remarks in reply so i do not feel i am the one with attitude
i will go back to google translate if it is too hard to understand
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Post by drunkendwarf on Oct 20, 2013 19:10:21 GMT -5
It was a simple misunderstanding. I was not trying to be rude in any way. I was just trying to say that it is good practice to use quotes when you are responding to something that's a few messages back so as to clear up any confusion. I believe we've wasted enough time on this.
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Post by donglepants on Oct 20, 2013 22:08:41 GMT -5
Anaiah,
Once upon a time you posted a screenshot to your public photobucket. This screenshot included the staff webportal, where you were reading an extremely sensitive and current, at the time at least, character report from a high-ranking Kurac. This character report outlined his plans to kill a Lirathan and some of her crew, and to blame it on others, among other things. Needless to say these things were sensitive to current happenings in the game.
1. Why did this screenshot exist? 2. Who were you showing/helping cheat/showing favoritism toward? 3. How can you extoll the virtues of being impartial and balanced and fair, and clearly be helping friends avoid consequences, or at the very least know about current happenings in the game? 4. Why were you not fired immediately for this breach of trust?
Please don't lie and say this didn't happen, because several of us know it did.
Everyone else: do you think that that behavior is acceptable in any way? Is this more or less acceptable than a staff avatar using information they gleaned from character reports directly? Keeping in mind that Kurac wasn't one of Anaiah's clans at the time and she really had no business reading that report at all. Would you be pleased if that were your long pursued plot to kill someone off, only to find out that suddenly, people knew your secret plans?
Discuss.
[Edited to organize questions.]
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Post by slipshod on Oct 21, 2013 2:26:08 GMT -5
how do you know he/she was sharing the information with someone else ?
i have pictures of my cat saved on image hosts, pictures of my sons and scans of documents from work plus scans of documents from friends work who were asking for advice or assistance. it is possible he/she was invited to assist in handling problems and the screenshot was taken for technical reasons and placed in public folder by mistake
it is not impossible as he/she did confess to sharing information with a friend in an earlier post when i questioned the typo mention in the weekly updates but this was after the ban.
it would be better to ask IF he/she was sharing it instead of assumed fact since if you knew these things for facts you would not have to come here and ask. it does some questionable but there are many possible innocent reasonings for it as well.
((i hope this post was easier to understand than my others))
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Post by donglepants on Oct 21, 2013 2:32:35 GMT -5
There really, really aren't any possible reasons for it, though. The staff webportal is accessible to all staff, on any computer. The request would be saved in that webportal for eternity. Any staff that needed to read it, for any reason whatsoever, at any point in the future, would be able to access it through the webportal.
Literally the only reason to take a screenshot of this would be to show it to someone who didn't have access to it, i.e. a player.
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Post by slipshod on Oct 21, 2013 3:00:24 GMT -5
i see.
thank you for explaining the portal to me.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 21, 2013 6:07:58 GMT -5
I wasn't helping anyone cheat anything anywhere. I didn't mean to set the permissions to it as public. It was a screenshot that Nyr asked me to take and send him a link to when I was trying to explain an issue I was having to get some assistance with it. That is why I wasn't fired for it, I was asked by higher ups to make it to send to them. I was reprimanded and informed it was public, so I changed permissions on it. FYI: It's still on my photobucket, it's private now. Donglepants, if I were going to share something like that, I would have done it in a way that wasn't publicly accessible. I try not to assume the worst about others and would appreciate if I were shown the same consideration please.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 21, 2013 6:16:10 GMT -5
There really, really aren't any possible reasons for it, though. The staff webportal is accessible to all staff, on any computer. The request would be saved in that webportal for eternity. Any staff that needed to read it, for any reason whatsoever, at any point in the future, would be able to access it through the webportal. Literally the only reason to take a screenshot of this would be to show it to someone who didn't have access to it, i.e. a player. The problem was an issue I was having with a glitch in the request tool. And since I didn't know how the request was showing up to Nyr, and Nyr didn't know how it was showing up for me, he had me take the screenshot. But I'm sure that the only reason I could possibly have for something like that was to give the information to a player, and not to someone who I worked with who asked me for it.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 21, 2013 6:18:17 GMT -5
it is not impossible as he/she did confess to sharing information with a friend in an earlier post when i questioned the typo mention in the weekly updates but this was after the ban. it would be better to ask IF he/she was sharing it instead of assumed fact since if you knew these things for facts you would not have to come here and ask. it does some questionable but there are many possible innocent reasonings for it as well. It was not confessing to sharing information with anyone. My spouse plays. I've let him borrow my laptop to play on at intervals since his is broken. I did not realize it was public at the time. That's why it was taken down almost immediately.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 21, 2013 6:31:57 GMT -5
Anaiah, Once upon a time you posted a screenshot to your public photobucket. This screenshot included the staff webportal, where you were reading an extremely sensitive and current, at the time at least, character report from a high-ranking Kurac. This character report outlined his plans to kill a Lirathan and some of her crew, and to blame it on others, among other things. Needless to say these things were sensitive to current happenings in the game. 1. Why did this screenshot exist? Because I was having an issue with the way the request tool was displaying. There were things that should have been showing that were not, that were only doing that on that specific request. I was trying to explain to Nyr what was happening in order to see what the deal was. He asked me to make the screenshot, so I did.2. Who were you showing/helping cheat/showing favoritism toward? I wasn't. This is based on a false supposition.3. How can you extoll the virtues of being impartial and balanced and fair, and clearly be helping friends avoid consequences, or at the very least know about current happenings in the game? That is only an assumption on your part, not what happened. So... very easily.4. Why were you not fired immediately for this breach of trust? Because it wasn't a breach of trust, it was an accident on my part of not realizing that everything I put up there was public by default, then me fixing the accident once its consequences were pointed out to me.Please don't lie and say this didn't happen, because several of us know it did. I have no reason to lie and say this didn't happen. Why would you assume that that would be my response when I've tried to be nothing but forthcoming thus far?Everyone else: do you think that that behavior is acceptable in any way? Is this more or less acceptable than a staff avatar using information they gleaned from character reports directly? Keeping in mind that Kurac wasn't one of Anaiah's clans at the time and she really had no business reading that report at all. The person who CC'd the Tuluki Templarate when they turned the request in seemed to think that the clan staff for the Tuluki Templarate ought to read it. Which was me at the time.Would you be pleased if that were your long pursued plot to kill someone off, only to find out that suddenly, people knew your secret plans? It wasn't the only mistake I've made, but it was the most public one. At one point with a character of mine, I was logged in in Allanak and called them by their true name on accident, not realizing that I'd done so without the information having been given to me but used to seeing it flash on and off as them logging in and out 6-8 times a day as they'd log in and log out. (Lianna vs Li) I could've sworn that that was how the templar that had introduced them had introduced her, and she put in a request about it where it had to be explained that it was a simple accident. Not every mistake that is made is malicious, or even intentional. Sometimes you fuck up and don't realize you have until someone else points it out. Discuss. [Edited to organize questions.]
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Post by delerak on Oct 21, 2013 8:55:04 GMT -5
Anaiah, Once upon a time blah blah blah My reaction to this now that Anaiah has responded.
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Post by donglepants on Oct 21, 2013 11:24:30 GMT -5
Anaiah,
My apologies, but surely you can see how terrible it looked at the time. Why was it not just sent by email to Nyr? Surely somewhere better existed than your public, personal photobucket.
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Post by delerak on Oct 21, 2013 11:59:53 GMT -5
My question would be.. why not just do a screen share through one of the many various programs? Skype has screen sharing, oovoo, logmein etc etc.
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Post by themountaingoat on Oct 21, 2013 12:26:37 GMT -5
Who gives a shit.
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