mehtastic
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Post by mehtastic on Mar 31, 2023 8:06:57 GMT -5
Seems like one of the biggest users of homophobic slurs was Kronibas, who is now a happy player and defender of Armageddon. And sadly Hestia's no longer on staff as of just a few days ago, so we can't ask her what she thinks of trans and non-binary people. Between 2020 and 2023 I don't see any uses of it at all. At and before 2020 most of its usage is in quotes of other people's posts. Saying "six pages" is disingenuous. The board has obviously attracted a lot of LGBTQ+ people who regularly post here. I would genuinely feel bad if they don't feel safe posting here, but I haven't seen any indication that they don't. The fixation on the past juvenile use of slurs is weird when the game has people on its side that actively attacks LGBTQ+ people. this is the craziest shit i’ve ever read. did shabago dictate this to you? how the fuck you gonna rail against staff using this exact same language only to steal their template?
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Post by terminal on Mar 31, 2023 8:12:03 GMT -5
i have no idea what that means but i don’t think it addresses the fact that you deflected metek’s valid concerns.
just fucking cop to it. there are shitty people amongst this community. someone posted a heil hitler jpeg a day or so ago and nobody bat an eye. baobab casually sucking his teeth over whether preemptively banning nazis is justified.
this place is easily as fucked as the gdb because it’s composed of the exact same people and nobody wants to acknowledge it.
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Post by lechuck on Mar 31, 2023 8:17:32 GMT -5
Back to the homophobia: You guys toss around the word fag without a single care. I tossed it into your search bar and saw six pages. I've been watching your boards for a while as well and it's by no means the only manner of bigotry I've seen communicated here carte blanch. If you had actually looked beyond the page count itself, you'd have found that practically all of those results stemmed from one of three sources:
1) Random weirdos with a single-digit post count, or outright deleted users, most of whom were probably prodoman -type GDB trolls 2) Clearly tongue-in-cheek usage, like ironically calling someone a 'faglord' with the express purpose of emphasizing the silliness of such a term 3) BBCode quotes of one of the above
In fact, if I search for the term 'fag,' the very first page of results goes back to fucking 2019. In short, there is no such thing as a tendency towards homophobia on this forum. Nobody knows if anyone here is gay because it has no bearing on any of the discussions that have ever taken place here. Once in a while, someone thinks it'll be vaguely humorous to call someone else a 'faglord' or something, because it's sort of a funny term, but in no conceivable way has it ever been an actual feature of this community.
For you to bring that up at all shows that you're utterly unfamiliar with this place and just looked for the lowest-hanging fruit from which to pluck a source of outrage.
Cunt.
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mehtastic
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Post by mehtastic on Mar 31, 2023 8:17:55 GMT -5
i have no idea what that means but i don’t think it addresses the fact that you deflected metek’s valid concerns and what-abouted the gdb. just fucking cop to it. there are shitty people amongst this community. someone posted a heil hitler jpeg a day or so ago and nobody bat an eye. baobab casually sucking his teeth over whether preemptively banning nazis is justified. this place is easily as fucked as the gdb because it’s composed of the exact same people and nobody knows wants to acknowledge it. I didn't whatabout anything, I pointed out that the Arm community has several people that are actively homophobic and transphobic. Pointing out some slurs were said a few years ago pales in comparison to Arm staff seeing that someone said "I refer to nonbinary people as 'it'" and still hired her.
The Heil Hitler picture as well as the one I posted are from Breaking Bad. You obviously don't get the context, but the image you're talking about is not pro-Hitler.
I'm sure there are shitty people here. But they are largely kept in check by the fact that expressing their uninformed opinions would be embarrassing and result in being piled on. Unlike the GDB where there was a player just a couple of weeks ago saying that a woman deserved to be sexually harassed because she's a "highly-paid sex worker", and no one has anything to say because everyone's too afraid of confrontation.
In case any of the above was complicated, I'll simplify it for you. I think you're seeing what you want to see and ignoring what you don't want to see.
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Post by terminal on Mar 31, 2023 8:26:25 GMT -5
I think you're seeing what you want to see and ignoring what you don't want to see. and i’m seeing that this reads exactly like a response that shalooonsh or shabago or any number of other people would’ve given to the people that you’re all in here raging about. delirium, bebop, etc.
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Post by jesantu on Mar 31, 2023 8:27:35 GMT -5
Just for the record, a nazi is defined as: Nazi /ˈnɑːtsi/ noun HISTORICAL a member of the far-right National Socialist German Workers' Party.
Not a nazi is defined as:
Literally anyone else.
Posting an image that includes a swastika does not make the poster a nazi. Maybe posting a swastika is insensitive and we can discuss that but it does not mean the person doing it is an actual nazi.
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mehtastic
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Post by mehtastic on Mar 31, 2023 8:28:08 GMT -5
I think you're seeing what you want to see and ignoring what you don't want to see. and i’m seeing that this reads exactly like a response that shalooonsh or shabago or any number of other people would’ve given to the people that you’re all in here raging about. delirium, bebop, etc.
Let me put it a different way then. You're an idiot.* *With apologies to whichever staff, SOs, or parents have called you that in the past. I promise I'm not taking their style.
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Post by lechuck on Mar 31, 2023 8:34:33 GMT -5
We harbor no ill will towards any idiots who did not expose themselves as such on this forum. It's just that anytime there's a big scandal on ArmageddonMUD, we get a fresh influx of idiots and we call them what they are, without intending to inflict emotional harm to any unrelated idiots out there.
MeTekillot is a fucking idiot.
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Post by terminal on Mar 31, 2023 8:43:47 GMT -5
anytime there’s a big scandal there’s an influx of discussion that peters out after a few months as the most vocal and virulently shitty users shout down challenging opinions.
got about another month of constant updates about a new gdb post, someone will ask for a branch list, and then it’ll go back to zero posts for a year.
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Post by jesantu on Mar 31, 2023 8:48:03 GMT -5
got about another month of constant updates about a new gdb post, someone will ask for a branch list, and then it’ll go back to zero posts for a year. Why is there a requirement that this board be 100% active at all times? If it goes silent for two years even and then some posters resurface with new thoughts, what's the big deal?
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Post by terminal on Mar 31, 2023 8:51:33 GMT -5
if a central pillar of your argument is that nobody has used slurs since 2020 it does help to acknowledge the lack of activity in the interim.
otherwise it doesn’t matter much at all except to point out that dismissing people outright promotes a lack of conversation, which is exactly what people who don’t like being challenged want.
where’s the acknowledgment of the irony of shutting down a conversation an hour or so after the post quipping about ath doing the same.
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Post by lechuck on Mar 31, 2023 8:52:47 GMT -5
anytime there’s a big scandal there’s an influx of discussion that peters out after a few months as the most vocal and virulently shitty users shout down challenging opinions. got about another month of constant updates about a new gdb post, someone will ask for a branch list, and then it’ll go back to zero posts for a year. Yeah, it's almost as if ArmageddonMUD is a dying game that increasingly fewer people care about as the months go by.
Meanwhile, anytime the slightest thing happens there, this place floods with new users who are chomping at the bit to tell us how awful we are. Nazis, homophobes, meanies who dare to use harsh language. It's almost as if the GDB imbeciles are the source of activity here, like some self-fulfilling prophecy.
In other words, you're an idiot.
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Post by terminal on Mar 31, 2023 8:57:20 GMT -5
i don’t give a shit about people being mean, using the word fag, or posting images with the words “heil hitler”.
you all can be the shittiest people alive.
it just stands out to me that quite a few of you act in the exact same ways as the people you’re railing against.
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Post by lechuck on Mar 31, 2023 8:58:12 GMT -5
Oh no, we're the shittiest people alive! Aw, shucks.
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Post by jesantu on Mar 31, 2023 8:58:50 GMT -5
you all can be the shittiest people alive. Why, what have I done?
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