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Post by jcarter on Jul 4, 2019 11:28:27 GMT -5
It goes both ways. Staff are assholes, have done terrible shit to people. Same goes for the players. You think a lot of what I had happen to me wasn't deserved? I guess deserve doesn't matter but I was a pretty terrible piece of shit myself and attacked the staff/game many times if I felt wronged or my pride was hurt. My ego was huge. So I guess what you can also have veteran players that come back to try and the game and see if they can have fun again. The moment it stops being fun I will probably walk away without making much fuss, it's not that serious. And you also can have new players. I am teaching my wife to play Arm right now and some of the stuff she does is hilarious. Seeing new players learn the game is a treat for me, I really enjoy fostering people to enjoy a game I once had a real passion for. ...ok? not sure what the point of this is. there's plenty of people that never had problems with halaster, nyr, nessalin, or nergal. there's also plenty of girls that didn't have an issue with larry nassar. you haven't had problems or issues with them and have been having a fun time. good for you, who cares? |
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Post by delerak on Jul 4, 2019 12:26:56 GMT -5
There is no grand point just sharing my thoughts.
Comparing Larry Nassar to arm staff is ridiculous.
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Post by gloryhound on Jul 4, 2019 12:35:21 GMT -5
Sounds to me like Delerak's point is bascally:
1. Get older.
2. Mellow out.
3. Stop stressing about unimportant things.
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Post by Jeshin on Jul 4, 2019 13:57:53 GMT -5
I would point out the majority of players who had complaints about staff never went to the Delerak level of 'troublemaking'. So while he might be in a let bygones be bygones we both did wrong, that isn't the situation the majority of the disaffected player base was in.
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Post by jcarter on Jul 4, 2019 14:57:37 GMT -5
There is no grand point just sharing my thoughts. Comparing Larry Nassar to arm staff is ridiculous. of course. the point was that goign 'hurf durf well im having fun' is just white noise. |
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Post by delerak on Jul 4, 2019 15:21:22 GMT -5
There is no grand point just sharing my thoughts. Comparing Larry Nassar to arm staff is ridiculous. of course. the point was that goign 'hurf durf well im having fun' is just white noise. I don't think so. Telling people how you feel is important. You might not feel the same way as me or even disagree entirely and think my posts are pointless, but it doesn't invalidate them because you say so. |
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Post by pinkerdlu on Jul 4, 2019 15:47:23 GMT -5
of course. the point was that goign 'hurf durf well im having fun' is just white noise. I don't think so. Telling people how you feel is important. You might not feel the same way as me or even disagree entirely and think my posts are pointless, but it doesn't invalidate them because you say so. Weren't you just trying to invalidate our posts by saying "oh people are always going to complain about something" Yeah, we get it man. You're doing your own thing and having some fun at the moment. You've gotten over shit that happened to you in the past and you're OK with current staff. That doesn't mean the game is in a good state. That doesn't mean there aren't problems with some current staff members. That doesn't mean shitty things haven't happened to other players. |
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Post by jcarter on Jul 4, 2019 16:00:12 GMT -5
of course. the point was that goign 'hurf durf well im having fun' is just white noise. I don't think so. Telling people how you feel is important. You might not feel the same way as me or even disagree entirely and think my posts are pointless, but it doesn't invalidate them because you say so. 'my wife is having fun playing independently' is in no way relevant, topical, or useful when interjected into the middle of a conversation regarding allegations towards a current staff member that your wife has no interaction with and has never had interaction with. hence, it is white noise. and you yourself called it pointless, so idk why you're crying about others feeling the same way. |
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Post by delerak on Jul 4, 2019 16:03:35 GMT -5
I don't think so. Telling people how you feel is important. You might not feel the same way as me or even disagree entirely and think my posts are pointless, but it doesn't invalidate them because you say so. Weren't you just trying to invalidate our posts by saying "oh people are always going to complain about something" Yeah, we get it man. You're doing your own thing and having some fun at the moment. You've gotten over shit that happened to you in the past and you're OK with current staff. That doesn't mean the game is in a good state. That doesn't mean there aren't problems with some current staff members. That doesn't mean shitty things haven't happened to other players. I never claimed otherwise. |
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Post by Deleted on Jul 26, 2019 14:04:04 GMT -5
There really isnt a way to target a complaint. I would literally need to read every single complaint, deduce somehow that it's about loonsh. Which is difficult to do, unless the conversation calls him by name, since the complaint rarely name a staffer by name.
It is technically possible, but in every civilized society the accuser must prove the guilt, not the innocent prove their innocence. You wanna talk shit? Back it up.
lmao for decades, staff has worked their asses off to suppress players communicating and sharing information on issues like this. you guys scour the internet and punish anyone who talks about it. 'trust us, we'll take care of it!' now your fat ass is sitting on top of a mountain of complaints that you're too lazy to bother looking through and you want to hem and haw about the burden of proof, when the proof is archived on your server that you exclusively have access to and are unwilling to look through or share. i've said it before and i'll say it again. qwerty is the kind of piece of shit that would have covered up for sandusky or larry nassar. when you wonder how these guys got away with it for so long, remember that there were always pieces of garbage like qwerty that circled the wagons around them and defended them to the death.
You accuse a person and then charge "another" person to gather evidence to support your own accusation. Meanwhile, failing miserably at supporting your arguments yourself.
How do you even imagine this? I mean what am I going to do? Mechanically I mean. Like what are the literal steps? Any at all what so ever action that I can do that will 'not' support your accusations will have me claimed a liar, etc. That's not how things work in a civilized society.
You're claiming these things, so I assume you have "something" that talks about it? Would you like to share with a class? Or are you talking about some fake account that lied, was proven to have been lying, and then dissapeared. If that's all you got to support your statements, then hey ... you think what you like, bud.
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Post by jcarter on Jul 26, 2019 14:13:53 GMT -5
lmao for decades, staff has worked their asses off to suppress players communicating and sharing information on issues like this. you guys scour the internet and punish anyone who talks about it. 'trust us, we'll take care of it!' now your fat ass is sitting on top of a mountain of complaints that you're too lazy to bother looking through and you want to hem and haw about the burden of proof, when the proof is archived on your server that you exclusively have access to and are unwilling to look through or share. i've said it before and i'll say it again. qwerty is the kind of piece of shit that would have covered up for sandusky or larry nassar. when you wonder how these guys got away with it for so long, remember that there were always pieces of garbage like qwerty that circled the wagons around them and defended them to the death. You accuse a person and then charge "another" person to gather evidence to support your own accusation. Meanwhile, failing miserably at supporting your arguments yourself.
How do you even imagine this? I mean what am I going to do? Mechanically I mean. Like what are the literal steps? Any at all what so ever action that I can do that will 'not' support your accusations will have me claimed a liar, etc. That's not how things work in a civilized society.
You're claiming these things, so I assume you have "something" that talks about it? Would you like to share with a class? Or are you talking about some fake account that lied, was proven to have been lying, and then dissapeared. If that's all you got to support your statements, then hey ... you think what you like, bud.
i am more than willing to gather the evidence if you'll turn over the records, or just give me access to the mountain of complaints that you're sitting on. |
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Post by muddy on Aug 3, 2019 13:02:57 GMT -5
For the O.P. Yes, plenty of times "wished up" about whatever and watched staff animate to deal with it (examples a breed carving his name on the bar-top at whatever the Byn bar was in Tuluk; reset glitches; Twink behavior like murder in Byn training yard because 20ish people were online.) Also had staff just animate the world because they were bored and only 20ish players were online. And yes I've had them animate multiple times to just kill my PC, hindsight I deserved it. Best skills Journeyman yet because I knew the world, I could ride deep into the most dangerous spots when drunk or bored RL.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 3, 2019 23:13:10 GMT -5
of course. the point was that goign 'hurf durf well im having fun' is just white noise. I don't think so. Telling people how you feel is important. You might not feel the same way as me or even disagree entirely and think my posts are pointless, but it doesn't invalidate them because you say so. Telling people with an emotional stake in your life and wellbeing, how you feel, is important. Telling everyone how you feel is white noise. |
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Post by jkarr on Aug 4, 2019 8:55:14 GMT -5
I don't think so. Telling people how you feel is important. You might not feel the same way as me or even disagree entirely and think my posts are pointless, but it doesn't invalidate them because you say so. Telling people with an emotional stake in your life and wellbeing, how you feel, is important. Telling everyone how you feel is white noise. if thats true then the whole board is white noise |
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Post by Deleted on Aug 4, 2019 12:50:19 GMT -5
Telling people with an emotional stake in your life and wellbeing, how you feel, is important. Telling everyone how you feel is white noise. if thats true then the whole board is white noise There is a distinct difference between persuasive argument and emotional venting. |
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