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Post by Amos's Boots on Sept 2, 2018 23:46:16 GMT -5
Back to the original topic at hand, it has been confirmed that the special rolecall posted on the GDB was in fact a poorly veiled open-call to staff's pets to get involved in something interesting and make world-changing events unfold, while completely neglecting the rest of the player-base that are trying to get involved in these events as well.
Already from the sidelines, it has been observed that the frequent 'earthquake' events are the result of staff catering to a |VERY| small group of PCs (literally 2 at current count). One being a D-elf Rukkian/sorcerer doing nonsense in the Pah and one human/breed that is named after a number that is being led around on these bizarre and wondrous quests (still undetermined if the character named after a number is a staff-alt or not).
I truly doubt staff are ever going to change the way they run armageddon and they will always pick and choose their 'favorites' over the underdogs, never giving these others a chance to try and make the game any better. They instead prefer to keep running the game into the ground.
The current staff in control of this bogus special rolecall are part of the problem - change my mind Crowder style.
Also worth mentioning, just because Rath posted it doesn't mean he's in control of it. He's just the face, not the hands.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 3, 2018 0:13:00 GMT -5
Currently, no Delf can be a sorcerer, or a rukkian. A sun Runner delf Rukkian would be executed. A SLK rukkian would be executed. Same with sorcerers. So this is basically impossible.
Your post is full of conjecture and you're stating it as 'proven'. If it's proven, then prove it. I'm aware of six different characters who were part of earth quake/plague rat/salt worm rps at different times. They're all different walks of life. RS, Rinthi, and Nakki.
Can someone define the word 'sockpuppeting'? Maybe a real example of it on GDB? Something I can read and be like, "Yeah. That's definitely a dick move." Anyone? I mean the issue is about forum posts, for crying out loud, there's gotta be public record. This is no longer a matter of he said, she said. You should literally be able to post actual quotes and have a traceable timeline.
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Post by Amos's Boots on Sept 3, 2018 0:16:40 GMT -5
Currently, no Delf can be a sorcerer, or a rukkian. A sun Runner delf Rukkian would be executed. A SLK rukkian would be executed. Same with sorcerers. So this is basically impossible. Your post is full of conjecture and you're stating it as 'proven'. If it's proven, then prove it. I'm aware of six different characters who were part of earth quake/plague rat/salt worm rps at different times. They're all different walks of life. RS, Rinthi, and Nakki. Can someone define the word 'sockpuppeting'? Maybe a real example of it on GDB? Something I can read and be like, "Yeah. That's definitely a dick move." Anyone? I mean the issue is about forum posts, for crying out loud, there's gotta be public record. This is no longer a matter of he said, she said. You should literally be able to post actual quotes and have a traceable timeline. In order to prove it beyond my 'conjecture', it would require outing my current character as well as each of the characters involved in information-gathering. As for those six different characters you mention being part of these events, it doesn't mean that they were involved in any capacity beyond interacting with the situations at hand. The aggressive nature of your retorts seem to indicate you have a personal investment in things that are going on. Also as for the SLK/SR rukkians/sorcs being executed, that how the docs are supposed to be played out, sure, but that doesn't mean that it's the way things are being played out. Dare I bring up the gith-mindbender plot? I probably shouldn't, considering it has been forgotten about by the majority of players. |
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Post by Deleted on Sept 3, 2018 0:21:24 GMT -5
Have you read any of my posts for the past month? They're almost always aggressive  Dont take it too close to heart. And there is no need to devalue my argument, by attacking my persona. And once again. your very first statement is impossible. You cant be a rukkian delf at the current moment. A Celf maybe. But not a Delf. In other words. To translate all these words into a singular clear sentence. You my friend, are full of shit  . |
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Post by Amos's Boots on Sept 3, 2018 0:38:49 GMT -5
Have you read any of my posts for the past month? They're almost always aggressive Dont take it too close to heart. And there is no need to devalue my argument, by attacking my persona. And once again. your very first statement is impossible. You cant be a rukkian delf at the current moment. A Celf maybe. But not a Delf. In other words. To translate all these words into a singular clear sentence. You my friend, are full of shit . Of course, I don't need to devalue your arguments while you're doing it yourself. If you're really going to ignore the second iteration of what I'm saying, there's no point in reiterating it a third time (yet I will anyways, call me an optimist). Staff haven't been adhering to documentation for a long time, in favor of doing things that they think are fun for themselves and their tiny group of friends. |
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Post by Deleted on Sept 3, 2018 0:45:55 GMT -5
The point of my post for you, Amos's Boots was simple. You dont know everything. You've missed giant chunks, but are eager to proclaim Staff evil and call it proven. That is all. I wouldnt be so aggressive, if your post was all example: If you posted something like that. I would find it understandable. You're not saying it's 'absolute' or 'proven', you're simply sharing your observation.
But nooo. You're stating false matters and claiming them 'proven', and then when you describe the matters, those matters are instantly clearly incorrect in details from the very first glance. There is a situation when Staff is wrong at whatever. And then there are situations when you 'want' them to be wrong and will state them so, regardless of what they do and what you see. And that's ... BS. And I'm calling you on it. |
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Post by tedium on Sept 3, 2018 0:52:24 GMT -5
Currently, no Delf can be a sorcerer, or a rukkian. This is untrue. Currently, the documentation says no Delf can be a sorcerer or a rukkian according. That does not mean that staff will not make or grant a Delf sorcerer or Rukkian for a metaplot in defiance of documentation.
"It's against the rules to make a delf rukkian or sorc" != "there are no delf rukkian or sorcs"
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Post by Deleted on Sept 3, 2018 0:53:51 GMT -5
Currently, no Delf can be a sorcerer, or a rukkian. This is untrue. Currently, the documentation says no Delf can be a sorcerer or a rukkian according. That does not mean that staff will not make or grant a Delf sorcerer or Rukkian for a metaplot in defiance of documentation.
To a player? Or an avatar for plot purposes?
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Post by tedium on Sept 3, 2018 0:55:34 GMT -5
Either? They can do whatever they want and often do.
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Post by Amos's Boots on Sept 3, 2018 0:59:14 GMT -5
@qwerty There is so fucking much to unpack with your verbal diarrhea, I want to just chalk it up to mental instability, but that's far too easy and there's ample proof to support it.
The fact you can look at what I'm saying and immediately declare to yourself that what I'm saying |must| be false, because <insert logical fallacy here>, makes me all the more disinclined to give you any form of evidence beyond my 'conjecture'.
If you simply want to believe it's not true because of reason xyz, go right on ahead. But don't be so easy to dismiss the nonsense that's taking place in the game. The Docs say one thing, staff does another. It's been this way for a few years now. While there are those few good staffers that adhere to the documentation and actually try to make the game a fun place for everyone, they are eclipsed by the few that are just trying to make it fun for their buddies.
I'm not here to argue with a crazy, I'm here to point something out, which I did, so now I am out. Go ahead and stir your own shit pot some more.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 3, 2018 1:02:45 GMT -5
Well. Sure. They can also make anyone a vampire, grant them immortality, and set their strength to a 1000. I understand your point, I guess.
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Post by Jeshin on Sept 3, 2018 1:10:24 GMT -5
Was the description of events and the # of characters and the 'types' of characters soft admission of being a staffer trying to engage with the community? If so I think the general consensus has always been if staff came here (or anywhere not moderated by them) and said. I am staff, I am this staff, I am speaking my person non-staff opinion or official staff opinion. That would probably get you razzed but a fair few people would try it out see if it led to anything productive in terms of dialogue.
If it is not soft admission of being staff is it against the rules to discuss that information? If yes, welcome to the rulebreakers!
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Post by Amos's Boots on Sept 3, 2018 2:55:19 GMT -5
Admittedly, I feel sort of bad for going in on qwerty the way I did. I was kinda harsh lmao.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 3, 2018 3:27:21 GMT -5
lol. Don't worry. I didnt take it personally. I also know that your observation is untrue. But much like you, I cant really detail out exact information for obvious reasons. Thankfully, eventually, all of it 'will' be somewhat revealed to one extent, or another.
Although. You cant really combat the premise of 'whomever got picked is a staff pet'. Because "anyone" who got picked ends up being called a staff pet, if that person isnt 'you'. And by 'you', I dont mean amos's boots. I mean ... the reader of this post, I guess. The whole premise of 'staff pets' is invalid, because it's such an encompassing concept of 'anyone who's got better toys then I do'.
By that definition anyone who's a sorc, or a psi, or a sponsored role is a staff pet. And if that's your definition, then there's no real point in conversing.
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Post by tedium on Sept 3, 2018 5:19:05 GMT -5
You can combat it simply by not picking characters to spoon-feed information via NPCs. Leave the clues in the world and let players find them (or not) at their own rate. I'm not saying that this is necessarily what happened in this case (though it does appear to be the case), but that's been the most common way of advancing plots in Arm.
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Dont take it too close to heart. And there is no need to devalue my argument, by attacking my persona. And once again. your very first statement is impossible. You cant be a rukkian delf at the current moment. A Celf maybe. But not a Delf. In other words. To translate all these words into a singular clear sentence. You my friend, are full of shit 
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