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Post by lulz on Jul 8, 2015 14:06:13 GMT -5
You're so cute when you're angry.
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Post by jimmyhoffa on Jul 8, 2015 19:13:03 GMT -5
Jeshin, just shut up dude you have no idea what your talking about
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Post by Deleted on Jul 8, 2015 19:13:27 GMT -5
I think Jeshin is confusing Shadows of Isildur with Southlands RPI, which came along around the same times as Harshlands. It shut down years ago but it was around when I started playing Arm in the early 2000's.
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Post by jimmyhoffa on Jul 8, 2015 19:13:52 GMT -5
it's pretty funny that the coding of a 13 year old is taken as the Holy Bible of Armageddon MUD and has been the backbone of the game for 25 years now. Explains a lot |
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Post by lyse on Jul 8, 2015 20:04:29 GMT -5
I think Jeshin is confusing Shadows of Isildur with Southlands RPI, which came along around the same times as Harshlands. It shut down years ago but it was around when I started playing Arm in the early 2000's. Actually it was fourlands then southlands then EoE. I'm surprised there isn't a better record of this stuff. |
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Post by jesantu on Jul 9, 2015 6:40:10 GMT -5
emoting and good writing? Not only do people not encourage it, they'll routinely parrot that "good writing does not equal good roleplay," like they're justifying Arm's culture of bad, lazy writing and eager for a chance to express the notion that one shouldn't care about emoting. Good writing does not necessarily equal good roleplay, but very bad writing will rarely produce good roleplay. Can I get a hallelujah please!? I thought I was the only one who felt this way after all these years. It isn't that the argument of "good writing does not equal good roleplay" is incorrect, it is genuinely true, but it's such a cop out argument used to gloss over a larger problem.
There used to be a time in Arm's history where when an NPC was animated I was dazzled and enthralled. And it isn't because I'm glorifying the past, as people so often do, but because some of the imms who did animations in those days (Sanvean, Aernis, Halaster, to name a few) really made an effort to breathe life into the NPCs they were portraying. From my limited viewpoint in the past five years as someone who plays the game on an irregular basis, I can't think of a single NPC animation I've seen that had any depth to it at all. Who are the legends of today's game? Who are the NPCs (or, hell, PCs for that matter) that in years from now we'll look back and say wow, what a compelling persona that player or imm had created. They're just not there because "good writing does not equal good roleplay".
Of course, hammering out five-line long emotes won't change that fact, and I'm not suggesting that as a remedy to the problem, but neither will only using the say and tell command as your sole means of expression. For chrissake have an original thought and put some effort into the "work" you're volunteering to do.
But hey, maybe the compelling characters are out there and I'm just not playing frequently enough or in the right social circles to see them. It seemed like they were more out there and blatant in earlier years though.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 9, 2015 10:35:11 GMT -5
Rahnevyn. Rahnevyn was a truly great storyteller.
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Post by jesantu on Jul 9, 2015 12:54:54 GMT -5
Dunno them but it's reassuring to hear there are a few good apples in recent times.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 11, 2015 16:26:14 GMT -5
Asan, your situation is fucked, and im sorry it came to this! You'll have more luck sleeping with scarlet Johansson than getting a rez for anyone in this game. Allow me to spin you a story. Once upon a time, (probably my favorite asshole dwarf warrior ever) Was the first trooper of The byn, trained for being a wall, and several years IG, collected a whole bunch of silt horror armor. He'd traveled the known, killed hordes of spiders, kryl, a couple mets, etc etc, no one cares about his deeds, the point being, he was no soft-hearted, weak warrior, he was well-trained, well-hunted, maxed almost everything, he even had branched advanced weaponry. Korath decides to fight in the arena. (Literal days after nyr was appointed dictator of allanak, who hates my guts). So, he and the unnamed(i think still alive) do a practice round before the event. Everything thrown at them gets murdered. Korath was using his shield (which as a maxed, dwarf warrior, that shield will be hell to get through unless your base off dwarfs theirs!) So, oash noble has a braxat come in. Unlike the other npcs, the braxat hesitated before charging. Axe and shield we meet the braxat head on, (korath hás killed braxats before, unscatched) and this braxat comes in and does two critical strikes back to back like korath was a skeet, (before i could even press enter, with disarm in my command prompt). He was still alive, and right after, the game crashes. Or so i thought. I log back in, and im dead. I also know the other players had dc'd, (speaking with them on aim, and the other pc in the arena had bad rep with nyr too. when the player logged in, he was almost dead. The oash logged intime to wipe the arena, and the player in the arena asked for a rez for korath, and was told immediately by nyr, no, the game didnt crash. Now...I hit up múltiple players, and turns out, it was just US three, who were dc'd.....at the exact damn time. One, a loaded braxat wouldnt mow through two long-lived, shield bearing warriors like nothing, unless it was tweaked. I also find it very odd that nyr replied immediately, (at least for me, 99% of my wishes go unanswered, and the 1% takes from 10 min + usually.), and most importantly, that three players DC at the same time, all living in different places of the world. No one else DC'd, Just us. Pretty sure nyr assasinated me, but thats not the point. The point is, even if you get fucked over and they know it, screw you and yours. I think it's fair to say that they have been guilty of killing off PCs to manipulate the game world toward their vision of "how it should be." |
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Post by Patuk on Jul 24, 2015 4:39:36 GMT -5
At leaat he isn't hitting on my she-dorf anymore(sorry)
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Post by Deleted on Jul 24, 2015 12:00:34 GMT -5
At leaat he isn't hitting on my she-dorf anymore(sorry) Ha! He would have never stopped if he wasnt assasinated |
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Post by topkekm8s on Jul 24, 2015 12:19:04 GMT -5
isnt scarlet kinda loose
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Post by ghost on Aug 11, 2015 8:32:55 GMT -5
This whole thread reminds me of a rez... Anyone know the sorcerer Falcon got a rez? After being 6 months too. He was at the gem with the SLK unit NPCs. He casted something and the units attacked him for him being a sorcerer. Quick and I (Gin) went over there to steal his corpse. We could not get it, the elves got it and we did spread the information to the game that a maxed out sorcerer, Falcon, is dead. He was allied to the elves at the time (we were not clear on the details) so he was not supposed to be attacked (again, we did not know this was the case) we thought the death was legit that is why we spread the information and also wanted to loot the corpse. Though, he got a rez for it after 6 months. Now looking at this thread, I think the claim of OP is far stronger than the reasoning behind rezzing Falcon. So I agree with the following: 3)the rezz policy is trash and depends on who's running things. i got a merchant house family member rezzed years ago when i died within 20 minutes of playing him because i drank cleaning fluid. no, maybe it's not easy to overhaul the shit quality crim code but as staff who are more than familiar with player angst and frustration with it you're in a role to alleviate it by rezzing characters in questionable situations like that. And after seeing the log, and rereading the original post, along with reasonable 's responses shows that the OP was right, that 3 people died to a mistake in the code, that would not/could not happen in a realistic situation. So, requesting a rez was the right thing as well as the reasonable thing to do. Staff refusing it was wrong, and later punishing the player was even worse. It shows that there is no empathy on staff's side, and they assume the worst on the players. This reminds me something that happened in RL: Once upon a time, I was being a terrible boyfriend and forgot my gf's birthday. She told me how upset she became, I gave a bullshit excuse and she gave me the opportunity to make it up to her. Then, later, I did not make it up to her, and she got angry. Then, I got angry because she was angry at me, I told her that I am not going to make it up to her. See, in this situation, I had absolutely no right whatsoever. I made a mistake, I was told of my mistake and despite my bullshit excuse, I could make it up to her and everyone would be happy. But instead, I followed it up with another mistake and she had every right to be pissed about it. So at that point, my expecting a second polite warning and being pissed for not getting it as stupid as the OP's being banned and then stored for requesting rez and arguing his point to staff over a mistake that staff had done, and it is understandable if at the end he became disgruntled and lost his temper. Yes, the staff are not going to have sex with the players. Perhaps, if they do mistakes and not admit their mistakes, and even punish the people who point those mistakes out and ask them to be fixed, they may not lose anything. And if you think that it is their right to do so, you are entitled to your opinion, but that still makes you as much of an asshole as I once was. (I admitted to my mistake and made it up to her afterwards) |
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Post by ccp on Sept 22, 2015 5:07:01 GMT -5
I have seen what the Arm is like since Asan was force stored and let me say that he is right. I think Asan was the last of the good Arm leaders. The guy they got as sergeant now can't seem to hold a unit together at all. I hope staff are happy with their decision to fuck over one of the last good clans in the game.
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Post by mood on Sept 22, 2015 17:48:25 GMT -5
Yes, the staff are not going to have sex with the players. weeeeellll.... |
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