Patuk
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Post by Patuk on May 7, 2015 19:29:43 GMT -5
I'm kind of sceptical about this. Everyone who has played Drovians seems to say that all they can do is be creeps and such. I'd accept that they can do more, but unstoppable machines of surgical death seems.. Far-fetched.
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Post by sirra on May 7, 2015 19:45:35 GMT -5
I'm kind of sceptical about this. Everyone who has played Drovians seems to say that all they can do is be creeps and such. I'd accept that they can do more, but unstoppable machines of surgical death seems.. Far-fetched. I was skeptical as well. And while more drovians have probably died attempting to do what was described to me, and isn't something I'd particularly recommend as a first resort...it is definitely possible. Takes some prep work, though. Probably not worth getting much into, but it did prove the point that every gicker, no matter how seemingly toothless, can seriously fuck you up if you become a target to them, such that they'll risk enough to get you. |
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Post by bobo on May 7, 2015 20:56:13 GMT -5
Sounds farfetched to me, but I like a good guessing game, and I've come up with at least one tactic that would fit the bill, although it might not be 100% reliable vs. Templars who are guarded by half-giants.
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Post by demonspongecake on May 8, 2015 3:49:09 GMT -5
Is there any plan to elaborate/explain? All this wink wink nudge nudge crap is pretty much worthless and reeks of the GDB.
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Post by fist on May 8, 2015 7:34:16 GMT -5
I would strongly assume either...
1 - ...it's mostly exaggeration/hyperbole, and the claimant(s) doesn't want to hear why it wouldn't work.
2 - ...it involves something pretty abusable in the code that the claimant(s) doesn't want adjusted by the staff.
I would lean towards Door No. 1.
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Post by Deleted on May 8, 2015 7:38:19 GMT -5
Yeah, it sounds like one of those "all you need is a wand of fireball" things to me.
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bobo
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Post by bobo on May 8, 2015 9:40:55 GMT -5
Well, I've been avoiding spilling my guess out of respect for the people that want to preserve a bit of mystery, however, here's my suggestion:
Summon a mon elemental. Mon Drov elementals will definitely be able to cast ethereal. Order the elemental to cast a low-duration ethereal on itself. Then cast high-duration ethereal on yourself. You and the elemental go to where the target is. Wait for the elemental's ethereal to expire, and as soon as it does, order it to attack the target. You could use a trigger for this part if you want to be a total dick. Personally, I'd open with a subdue-kill. Mon elementals have insane stats, so it is unlikely most PCs would be able to survive this onslaught.
The shortcomings are that my gut says a HG might have a decent shot of avoiding the subdue, and a Templar guarded by half-giants might have a good chance of the HG's guard interrupting the attack. And of course it probably won't work vs. a Nilazi hiding in a forbid elements because I think ethereal beings are unable to enter a room with forbid, assuming it works the same way as invis.
This works as long as 'order' works from ethereal, and I can't imagine why it wouldn't as say, tell, etc. all do.
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Post by Deleted on May 8, 2015 10:41:57 GMT -5
Subdue-kill also isn't instant or anywhere near guaranteed to kill somebody in one go. It might land the kill a lot of the time since an unaware target is probably just going to sit there and take the subequent hits, but the scenario was presented in a way that clearly implies an easy, instant, 100% certain kill. The elemental isn't going to one-shot most people even if they're subdued, and subdue has a delay of, what, six seconds or something like that?
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Post by Deleted on May 8, 2015 11:03:33 GMT -5
a mon elemental should have most (or all) of the spells of a maxed elementalist of the same guild. you can order the elemental to blind or curse, too, by that token, or bring a pair of them, one casting and one subduing. It's really not that hard to get around the ohk limitation with a fair amount of safety. it just takes more planning and patience.
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Post by gloryhound on May 8, 2015 15:45:09 GMT -5
You're not going to be doing this in the Templars' Quarter or the Nobles' Quarter or many other places, I can guarantee it, nor within a city such that you begin outside of it.
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Post by magickermarco on May 8, 2015 17:16:12 GMT -5
Ding ding ding, we have a winner here. NPC Templars, probably have detect ethreal up anyways, or they used to a LONG time ago.
I'm guessing, Create Darkness, Curse, Mon Elemental, Fear guards after Elemental Subdues Target, once you get to said tar.... Sorry Rambling
Next guess?
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Post by BitterFlashback on May 10, 2015 4:32:33 GMT -5
The downside to Qwerty telling you how to drov is the inevitable nerf that would follow.
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Patuk
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Post by Patuk on May 10, 2015 7:45:10 GMT -5
I kind of want to note here that combining rukkians/krathi/elkrans and their stats with dat sweet elf steal has much hilarity potential
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Post by my2sids on May 10, 2015 9:51:35 GMT -5
This discussion reminds me of people being surprised when I was wrecking face with a water mage. It's not my fault that most Vivaduan players want to hug people instead of kill them. The healer trope is strong.
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Post by sirra on May 10, 2015 11:21:45 GMT -5
This discussion reminds me of people being surprised when I was wrecking face with a water mage. It's not my fault that most Vivaduan players want to hug people instead of kill them. The healer trope is strong. Yeah, but if they only knew it was you, they could've hid until you got bored, and killed yourself accidentally.  |
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