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Post by jimmyhoffa on Apr 28, 2015 17:00:15 GMT -5
"The only thing necessary for the triumph of evil is for good men to do nothing." -Edmund Burke Please. You're We're (because I'm part of this), at the very best, players and ex players of a mud that you're still obsessing over and willing to spend countless hours arguing and analyzing every single words from every single posts that comes from Staff Announcements. "Good men" are currently helping Nigerians, the rest of us are fucktards wasting time on a forum. You are taking the quote too literally. It means if nobody does anything, Nyr can get away with anything. c'mon malken, you're better than this.
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malkeninthemiddle
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Post by malkeninthemiddle on Apr 28, 2015 17:01:58 GMT -5
You're, at the very best, players and ex players of a mud that you're still obsessing over and willing to spend countless hours arguing and analyzing every single words from every single posts that comes from Staff Announcements. "Good men" are currently helping Nigerians, the rest of us are fucktards wasting time on a forum. dude you have literally pissed away how many days of your life skilling up internet warriors on a niche text-based video game in the last few month alone, and you want toc all people pathetic for *gasp* posting on the internet while doing things like riding the bus or during downtime at work? holy shit what a joke Nah, I edited you're to we before your post, so it's cool, I'm including myself in the fucktards.
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malkeninthemiddle
Displaced Tuluki
Black woman lawyer on a television morning show
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Post by malkeninthemiddle on Apr 28, 2015 17:03:17 GMT -5
(I can totally see Adhira wanting to come here and talk to you guys after reading all of the latest threads hahahah)
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Post by Deleted on Apr 28, 2015 17:06:09 GMT -5
a copy of the staff contract laying around? does it say they'll ban your spouse's account if you reveal the wrong information? [/quote] -----Original Message----- From: adhira Armageddon < adhira@armageddon.org> To: amandagreathouse < amandagreathouse@aim.com>; staff < producers@armageddon.org> Sent: Wed, Jul 28, 2010 9:50 pm Subject: Re: Staff Chat
Amandagreathouse, Thank you for taking the time to interview for a staffing position on ArmageddonMUD. We would be delighted if you would join our team. Please take a look over the staff contract that I have pasted below. We will need you to reply to this email stating that you agree to the Staff contract and wish to join the ArmageddonMUD staff. Once that is done we'll start the process of getting you on board. Thanks!
Adhira Anything designed within the world of Armageddon is the sole property of ArmageddonMud[1]. - Staff-members shall read all documents on the immortal website, and shall be held accountable to adhering to these documents. - Staff members are not to talk to, or become visible to mortals, unless it is immediately necessary. Email is the preferred method of communication. - Staff members shall keep staff-privy information within the ranks of the staff, and away from the general populace[2]. - Staff-members shall interact with mortals only through the use of NPCs. Under no circumstances shall a quest be designed with the intention of harming or killing a pc. If such occurs, the staff member shall mail a greater immortal immediately, informing them of the situation[3]. Whenever a player comes to harm in a situation in which a staff member, either in immortal or mortal form, is involved, the staff member is responsible for emailing the account within 24 hours regarding the incident. - Staff members shall inform the administration in advance of any prolonged absences. Unexplained absences of more than 6 weeks can result in the staff member being set to Legend. - Staff-members are considered representatives of ArmageddonMud, both on and off the mud, and should conduct themselves accordingly when discussing Armageddon or related topics[4]. This includes discussing the game with online handles other than their staff persona. - The job of a staff member is exactly that, a job. Every staff member is expected to constructively add to the world for as long he/she holds his/her position.
Sub-Clauses: [1] : Property rights will remain in ArmageddonMud's control, although if a staff member wishes a copy of their work at any time, they may request it and ArmageddonMud will mail them a copy. [2] : Staff-privy information includes, but is not limited to, bulletin boards, spoken text on immortal channels, details of un-linked zones, documents contained on the website, email from staff mailing lists, and information on disk(i.e. "ls"). [3] : Harming shall be defined as endangering the life of a character, be it through physical harm such as damage, material harm such as the removal of all equipment or coins, or mental harm such as psionical attacks or theft of something held dear. [4] : When discussion of ArmageddonMud is held, staff members are considered representatives, and should refrain from making statements that could potentially harm the muds image. This includes, but not limited to flaming other muds in comparison to Armageddon, making snide comments towards others discussing Armageddon, and otherwise acting irresponsibly while discussing Armageddon.
[b]Failure to comply with the Staff Contract can and will result in the deletion of the staff member's immortal character, in addition to any mortal characters beyond the single one given to all players. [/b]
This contract?
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Post by silentlamb on Apr 28, 2015 17:06:59 GMT -5
(I can totally see Adhira wanting to come here and talk to you guys after reading all of the latest threads hahahah) Welp, I literally outed myself on this board for no reason. Honestly came here to achieve something constructive, dunno what I expected. Seems like this is going to be the quality of people I'm going to be dealing with.
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Post by jcarter on Apr 28, 2015 17:12:28 GMT -5
(I can totally see Adhira wanting to come here and talk to you guys after reading all of the latest threads hahahah) Welp, I literally outed myself on this board for no reason. Honestly came here to achieve something constructive, dunno what I expected. Seems like this is going to be the quality of people I'm going to be dealing with. in all fairness Malken is pure GDB and a recent addition who comes over here to feel virile before storming off and screaming how pathetic we are over his shoulder.
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malkeninthemiddle
Displaced Tuluki
Black woman lawyer on a television morning show
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Post by malkeninthemiddle on Apr 28, 2015 17:13:49 GMT -5
Anyway, I'm out again, so this forum can return to its former glory.
(love the overly sensationalized title too! Threats From Armageddon Staff (Nyr) And Misc. Awful - Never Forget 4/13)
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Post by jcarter on Apr 28, 2015 17:15:37 GMT -5
Anyway, I'm out again, so this forum can return to its former glory. (love the overly sensationalized title too! Threats From Armageddon Staff (Nyr) And Misc. Awful - Never Forget 4/13) i look forward to you coming back in three days and having another temper tantrum.
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Post by silentlamb on Apr 28, 2015 17:16:10 GMT -5
Anyway, I'm out again, so this forum can return to its former glory. (love the overly sensationalized title too! Threats From Armageddon Staff (Nyr) And Misc. Awful - Never Forget 4/13) I do think the title should be changed, it is kinda... Non objective. Ugh, this whole discussion was just draining. I'm going back to essay writing.
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Post by Patuk on Apr 28, 2015 17:27:12 GMT -5
Malken, your point really doesn't hold up if you think about the issue at hand for more than two minutes.
Suppose that, somewhere on this wide earth, there resides a couple playing Arm. The wife in the equation spends her days killing scrab and drinking beer, while the guy goes about abusing the code, sharing IC information all day every day, and griefing everyone he can constantly.
After a while, staff get sick of it, and ban him. But like a bastard with a Delerak-like level of tenacity, he uses a VPN, proxies, whatever, and keeps making new accounts.
Now, the argument you're making is that banning his wife's account is necessary to make sure he doesn't just use that account to go on.
.. Which also goes against the ideas of justice used in most every country people on these boards live in, including you.
People tend not to get punished for crimes they don't commit, and this principle ought to extend to general ideas of what is right or not, too. Keeping out some shithead isn't worth screwing over players who did nothing for. If you want to argue that it's human to send the wrong person an email, fine, but banning someone unrelated's account reeks of paranoia and insecurity.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 28, 2015 17:32:39 GMT -5
Me and jazet have gotten into some shit. I've even been banned from EOE. To his credit, though, my husband still plays EOE and quite happily when he has a character, and the guy's never taken it out on Kevin that I'm aware of. The fact that Kevin started getting shit account notes for things he wasn't doing after I left staff at arm just adds to my certainty that it's precisely because of the wife's proximity to him that she got the fallout. Why do I know this? There are almost a dozen assumed account notes based on no dialogue and flagrant assumption of the worst that got tacked onto kevin's account post me staffing like 'hooked up with account soandso again' 'clearly colluding with person in AIM' etc while he's never talked to anyone OOC except Adieren, briefly, when he and I went to go eat where she worked to meet her one time. It's just silly.
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Post by jazet on Apr 28, 2015 17:52:42 GMT -5
Anyway, I'm out again, so this forum can return to its former glory. (love the overly sensationalized title too! Threats From Armageddon Staff (Nyr) And Misc. Awful - Never Forget 4/13) I do think the title should be changed, it is kinda... Non objective. Ugh, this whole discussion was just draining. I'm going back to essay writing. The title is about a threat, from Armageddon's staff...and about awful things they have done to me and my wife. Why does it NEED to be objective? It's not sensationalized like it's fucking 9/11, Malken, so let's not trump bullshit for the sake of doing so. You think the discussion is needless, I get that. I think that people need to be aware of heavy handed tactics the staff have committed, because, let's be honest...if you hear enough tales of it happening, MAYBE it will start making an impact.
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Post by Prime Minister Sinister on Apr 28, 2015 18:08:56 GMT -5
Hmm....
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Post by sitbackandchillout on Apr 28, 2015 18:20:16 GMT -5
Sirra has joined the ranks of posters on this board who's opinions I will no longer be able to take seriously...
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Post by notdisgruntled on Apr 28, 2015 18:52:20 GMT -5
The title is about a threat, from Armageddon's staff...and about awful things they have done to me and my wife. Why does it NEED to be objective? It's not sensationalized like it's fucking 9/11 ! Kidding?
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