jazet
Clueless newb
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Post by jazet on Apr 28, 2015 15:20:59 GMT -5
The only other ginger I know of other than Nyr who is all thought-police, controlling and batshit about his product. Armageddon and Scientology...cut the cord, people.
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Post by silentlamb on Apr 28, 2015 15:22:03 GMT -5
Too lazy to delete my cookies, start up a vpn to log in. I'll do it later. Here's what I'm confronted with when I don't use a vpn (for reasons I'd explained earlier, made an account to start anew, got banned). Fun fact, I'm still allowed play and post, but to do so I've to use a vpn and have staff's permission to do so, and a special flag on my account to not be deleted as spam.
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malkeninthemiddle
Displaced Tuluki
Black woman lawyer on a television morning show
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Post by malkeninthemiddle on Apr 28, 2015 15:24:35 GMT -5
still wondering where malkeninthemiddle and my2sids are to tell me about how nyr totally doesn't read the board nor punish players for it Hey! Sorry, was too busy making fun of Kronibas on the GDB to pay attention to this forum lately. Give me a few minutes to read this thread and finish a paper and I'll reply shortly.
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Post by jcarter on Apr 28, 2015 15:29:49 GMT -5
still wondering where malkeninthemiddle and my2sids are to tell me about how nyr totally doesn't read the board nor punish players for it Hey! Sorry, was too busy making fun of Kronibas on the GDB to pay attention to this forum lately. So brave
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malkeninthemiddle
Displaced Tuluki
Black woman lawyer on a television morning show
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Post by malkeninthemiddle on Apr 28, 2015 15:36:05 GMT -5
Okay, first of all I think that you should definitely post that if you think that it's as fucked up as you seem to think it is (to that silentlamb dude).
As for myself, I'm not really sure what you guys are flipping about. It's clearly a mistake and Nyr admits to it right away, apologizes for it, fixes his mistake and then moves on.
Whoever Nyr is really after has clearly done something pretty bad to get that sort of email (we're discarding jazet now because he's definitely not the target of that email), so if I thought that jazet had done something really bad (which we have no idea what it might have been) AND I knew that his wife also had an account, I probably wouldn't trust him at all and discard all accounts related to him (which would include his wife's) because if I thought that jazet had done something awful, how do I know that it's really his wife that's playing and not him playing two accounts or whatever?
But clearly Nyr thought that jazet was the account he was after, until he realized his mistake. Again, he apologized and fixed it with just one email from jazet asking him what he was talking about.
Do you guys kinda understand what I'm trying to say? Nyr thought that jazet's account was the ex-Staff who had done something "wrong"'s account and saw that this account had another account associated with it, so he was going to ban them all. But he realized that it was the wrong account right after the email and apologized.
But yeah, post it on the GDB if you want, I'm personally not sure how it's making look Nyr terrible, considering that he apologized right away without any fuss for his mistake.
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Post by silentlamb on Apr 28, 2015 15:41:18 GMT -5
It's fucked up regardless of who it was sent to. Threatening another player by association (the wife) for actions done by her spouse is batshit insane, as is his manner of approach. It's confrontational, rude, and it wouldn't be accepted in real world society, so why should people be subjected to it? It shouldn't have happened in the first place, and he was outright dismissive in his apology.
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Post by sirra on Apr 28, 2015 15:43:54 GMT -5
Okay, first of all I think that you should definitely post that if you think that it's as fucked up as you seem to think it is (to that silentlamb dude). As for myself, I'm not really sure what you guys are flipping about. It's clearly a mistake and Nyr admits to it right away, apologizes for it, fixes his mistake and then moves on. Whoever Nyr is really after has clearly done something pretty bad to get that sort of email (we're discarding jazet now because he's definitely not the target of that email), so if I thought that jazet had done something really bad (which we have no idea what it might have been) AND I knew that his wife also had an account, I probably wouldn't trust him at all and discard all accounts related to him (which would include his wife's) because if I thought that jazet had done something awful, how do I know that it's really his wife that's playing and not him playing two accounts or whatever? But clearly Nyr thought that jazet was the account he was after, until he realized his mistake. Again, he apologized and fixed it with just one email from jazet asking him what he was talking about. Do you guys kinda understand what I'm trying to say? Nyr thought that jazet's account was the ex-Staff who had done something "wrong"'s account and saw that this account had another account associated with it, so he was going to ban them all. But he realized that it was the wrong account right after the email and apologized. But yeah, post it on the GDB if you want, I'm personally not sure how it's making look Nyr terrible, considering that he apologized right away without any fuss for his mistake. You've gotta be a stupid cocksucker to pull a guy's wife into anything. If you don't get that, then you're probably a stupid cocksucker too.
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malkeninthemiddle
Displaced Tuluki
Black woman lawyer on a television morning show
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Post by malkeninthemiddle on Apr 28, 2015 15:45:05 GMT -5
It's fucked up regardless of who it was sent to. Threatening another player by association (the wife) for actions done by her spouse is batshit insane, as is his manner of approach. It's confrontational, rude, and it wouldn't be accepted in real world society, so why should people be subjected to it? Yeah, that's the part I'm trying to explain.. First of all, he didn't threaten his wife, he threatened his wife's account. Second, like I said, the reason he actually wrote that email is because he thought that jazet was the cheating (or whatever) account and on that account's IP there's probably a note that says "My wife also plays". So if I was an admin and I thought that I had caught a cheater's account (someone who had broken the rules or whatever, we don't know what's the context of that email) and I saw that there was another account associated with him, of course I would ban that account (and every other account associated with it) because at this point you don't know if it's really his wife playing or not. The guy broke a rule, what makes you think he didn't break another one? But again, he realizes that he's got the wrong account and nothing else happens except for an apology and both parties moving on.
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malkeninthemiddle
Displaced Tuluki
Black woman lawyer on a television morning show
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Post by malkeninthemiddle on Apr 28, 2015 15:47:24 GMT -5
Okay, first of all I think that you should definitely post that if you think that it's as fucked up as you seem to think it is (to that silentlamb dude). As for myself, I'm not really sure what you guys are flipping about. It's clearly a mistake and Nyr admits to it right away, apologizes for it, fixes his mistake and then moves on. Whoever Nyr is really after has clearly done something pretty bad to get that sort of email (we're discarding jazet now because he's definitely not the target of that email), so if I thought that jazet had done something really bad (which we have no idea what it might have been) AND I knew that his wife also had an account, I probably wouldn't trust him at all and discard all accounts related to him (which would include his wife's) because if I thought that jazet had done something awful, how do I know that it's really his wife that's playing and not him playing two accounts or whatever? But clearly Nyr thought that jazet was the account he was after, until he realized his mistake. Again, he apologized and fixed it with just one email from jazet asking him what he was talking about. Do you guys kinda understand what I'm trying to say? Nyr thought that jazet's account was the ex-Staff who had done something "wrong"'s account and saw that this account had another account associated with it, so he was going to ban them all. But he realized that it was the wrong account right after the email and apologized. But yeah, post it on the GDB if you want, I'm personally not sure how it's making look Nyr terrible, considering that he apologized right away without any fuss for his mistake. You've gotta be a stupid cocksucker to pull a guy's wife into anything. If you don't get that, then you're probably a stupid cocksucker too. Yeah, I guess I am, because I don't see how he's threatening the guy's wife, all I see is him threatening his wife's account. Anyway, I'm leaving my explanation there and you can read whatever you want into it, and if it doesn't satisfy you, again, please do post it on the GDB (I can guarantee you that the GDB's reaction will be mostly positive since, again, it makes Nyr look apologetic as opposed to what his reputation appears to be here).
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Post by jcarter on Apr 28, 2015 15:47:48 GMT -5
It's fucked up regardless of who it was sent to. Threatening another player by association (the wife) for actions done by her spouse is batshit insane, as is his manner of approach. It's confrontational, rude, and it wouldn't be accepted in real world society, so why should people be subjected to it? Yeah, that's the part I'm trying to explain.. First of all, he didn't threaten his wife, he threatened his wife's account. Second, like I said, the reason he actually wrote that email is because he thought that jazet was the cheating (or whatever) account and on that account's IP there's probably a note that says "My wife also plays". So if I was an admin and I thought that I had caught a cheater's account (someone who had broken the rules or whatever, we don't know what's the context of that email) and I saw that there was another account associated with him, of course I would ban that account (and every other account associated with it) because at this point you don't know if it's really his wife playing or not. The guy broke a rule, what makes you think he didn't break another one? But again, he realizes that he's got the wrong account and nothing else happens except for an apology and both parties moving on. Doesnt it seem fundamentally wrong to you to go threatening to involve accounts which are in no way involved?
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Post by jcarter on Apr 28, 2015 15:48:57 GMT -5
You've gotta be a stupid cocksucker to pull a guy's wife into anything. If you don't get that, then you're probably a stupid cocksucker too. Yeah, I guess I am, because I don't see how he's threatening the guy's wife, all I see is him threatening his wife's account. Anyway, I'm leaving my explanation there and you can read whatever you want into it, and if it doesn't satisfy you, again, please do post it on the GDB. You know what they meant.
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Post by silentlamb on Apr 28, 2015 15:49:04 GMT -5
It's fucked up regardless of who it was sent to. Threatening another player by association (the wife) for actions done by her spouse is batshit insane, as is his manner of approach. It's confrontational, rude, and it wouldn't be accepted in real world society, so why should people be subjected to it? Yeah, that's the part I'm trying to explain.. First of all, he didn't threaten his wife, he threatened his wife's account. Second, like I said, the reason he actually wrote that email is because he thought that jazet was the cheating (or whatever) account and on that account's IP there's probably a note that says "My wife also plays". So if I was an admin and I thought that I had caught a cheater's account (someone who had broken the rules or whatever, we don't know what's the context of that email) and I saw that there was another account associated with him, of course I would ban that account (and every other account associated with it) because at this point you don't know if it's really his wife playing or not. The guy broke a rule, what makes you think he didn't break another one? But again, he realizes that he's got the wrong account and nothing else happens except for an apology and both parties moving on. Hmm.. Well I suppose that is a possibility. Without Nyr to provide any insight however, I'm still leaning in Jazet's favour, he at least provided context and screenshots, I can get that people do silly things in a spur of the moment, but Nyr has a history of these things so why give him the benefit of the doubt? It comes across as malicious, and others claim he has been malicious, so who is to say this isn't just another vindictive act of his?
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jazet
Clueless newb
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Post by jazet on Apr 28, 2015 15:49:15 GMT -5
The way I took it, when it happened was: 1. Everyone who was former staff is now on some short-leash, watch list if they haven't maintained "social" relations with current staff. 2. Nyr only stored my character and emailed me, not my wife, who was on at the time playing with me. So the issue wasn't with "whomever is playing both of those accounts" it was a knee jerk about just the one account that he was after. 3. My wife and I were both on staff on Armageddon and have met some of the longer-termed staff before, they know we're two different people. My account was one of the first 5 created and was the one that Tiernan used to test allowing multiple accounts, when that system first went in. 4. I was someone who was "annoying" to staff and it served the purpose of letting me be reminded that I was someone they were giving very little latitude to. 5. And my last reaction to it was one of being pissed that my rp session (conspiring social rp) was suddenly being -killed- as I was force stored with little more than an oops. RP has an ebb and flow and Nyr shit on it with a knee-jerk incident. It showed little respect to me as a player.
Like I said, that was just my feeling at the time.
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Post by sirra on Apr 28, 2015 15:49:33 GMT -5
It's fucked up regardless of who it was sent to. Threatening another player by association (the wife) for actions done by her spouse is batshit insane, as is his manner of approach. It's confrontational, rude, and it wouldn't be accepted in real world society, so why should people be subjected to it? Yeah, that's the part I'm trying to explain.. First of all, he didn't threaten his wife, he threatened his wife's account. Second, like I said, the reason he actually wrote that email is because he thought that jazet was the cheating (or whatever) account and on that account's IP there's probably a note that says "My wife also plays". So if I was an admin and I thought that I had caught a cheater's account (someone who had broken the rules or whatever, we don't know what's the context of that email) and I saw that there was another account associated with him, of course I would ban that account (and every other account associated with it) because at this point you don't know if it's really his wife playing or not. The guy broke a rule, what makes you think he didn't break another one? But again, he realizes that he's got the wrong account and nothing else happens except for an apology and both parties moving on. That's some tortured logic right there. Are you actually bent into a pretzel at this moment, or just typing like it? Also. He was only apologetic at threatening the wrong guy. Not of the tasteless threat he made. Don't you get that?
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Post by silentlamb on Apr 28, 2015 15:50:33 GMT -5
You've gotta be a stupid cocksucker to pull a guy's wife into anything. If you don't get that, then you're probably a stupid cocksucker too. And if there's one thing I hate it's this. You know this cheapens literally everything that's been said? Edit: Insulting people like that is what I mean. No need to insult people, jeez.
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