Post by shadycharacter on Sept 23, 2015 21:31:25 GMT -5
I guess this falls under the Misc. Awful category of Nyr, and my friend would very much like me to post it. He acted as an intermediary in trying to get my ban lifted, since I do not have access to the request tool.
To begin with, as there had been nothing but dead silence for my registered email since they banned me, I tried emailing Nyr from another address. To my surprise, he responded but ended up feigning ignorance as to knowing who I was. Naturally, he could have simply looked at my account details.
At this point, I went to the trouble of digging up names for him and sending evidence that I was indeed a player as I found it. That involved going all the way back into the pre-2010s, so it was a number of emails sent. Everything went dead silent at this point. No response to all of the evidence, but then, it was all there for him to see in my account details.
My friend tried to be an intermediary for me after silence descended once more, as I said. I'm sure he'll be posting soon enough. Here is what Nyr sent in response, in a true display of professionalism:
I'll just follow that with some notes:
1. The reason Nyr received several emails from me is because he solicited information on who I might have played in the north. I had to find these things digging through two email addressed used over the years, so I sent both names and other information supporting the fact that I was a real player as I found them. That's why he has several emails.
2. The "several" other staff members emailed were Adhira and Nessalin, Nyr's fellow Producers. I asked them if it was appropriate that he was pretending not to know who I was, even as I followed his instructions and did the work.
3. I am not banned from Sindome. I play it to this day. He drew that information from an old board post which is long since irrelevant.
4. The individual who submitted the request Nyr was replying to was not me. He stated this plainly in two sentences, but Nyr appears to have ignored it in his rush to go on the offensive.
Oh well. At least civility will be hard policy on the game I'm working on, even for staff. If a staff member had addressed anyone in that fashion on either of my games, I don't care who, they'd be fired.
To begin with, as there had been nothing but dead silence for my registered email since they banned me, I tried emailing Nyr from another address. To my surprise, he responded but ended up feigning ignorance as to knowing who I was. Naturally, he could have simply looked at my account details.
Not sure who this is. If you were banned after that amnesty, no, it does not still apply. I would recommend reading whatever it was staff told you when they banned you.
The name is definitely not ringing a bell. I would probably remember someone I disagreed with a lot, or someone that would be prone to sending copious emails and making broad assumptions about lots of things, or someone that doesn't know how to take "no" for an answer.
Are you sure you are emailing the right game's staff?
Are you sure you are emailing the right game's staff?
Sorry, I am not familiar with those names at all. I would definitely remember someone that played a Templar or had lots of karma. As you know, being somewhat familiar with this game, templar players and players with karma are literally the cream of the crop. That status never gets lost, nor does it change with time or experience with that player.
Did you ever play in Tuluk? I staffed quite a bit there. Maybe that is why I can't recall!
Did you ever play in Tuluk? I staffed quite a bit there. Maybe that is why I can't recall!
At this point, I went to the trouble of digging up names for him and sending evidence that I was indeed a player as I found it. That involved going all the way back into the pre-2010s, so it was a number of emails sent. Everything went dead silent at this point. No response to all of the evidence, but then, it was all there for him to see in my account details.
My friend tried to be an intermediary for me after silence descended once more, as I said. I'm sure he'll be posting soon enough. Here is what Nyr sent in response, in a true display of professionalism:
Dmango,
Resending with formatting so that you don't once again try and create another account (by the way, we're scrambling this one, we don't want to talk to you at all) just to ask us to resend it because you had trouble understanding "no". I'll also bold things for you.
X,
To put it bluntly:
Not just "no", but "hell no".
You have sent 12 unanswered or uninterrupted emails in the span of several hours, not including several more sent to other staff members. It appears that it did not cross your mind once that this is unreasonable behavior. Had you done this at a place of employment, it would have resulted in your termination. Had you done this to an acquaintance or friend in real life, they would have (and should have) written you off as clingy, obsessive, and potentially deserving of a restraining order. This would appear to be because you haven't changed a bit: you are the same needy, narcissistic player that cannot do without having some form of staff attention focused on you (negative or otherwise). You cannot abide a "no" (and for the nth time, you've proven that).
This isn't limited to our game. You've been banned from another game, much to our surprise (insert sarcasm here), and you went by the same name there. No, we don't care what you think happened there, so go ahead and stuff it in advance. Your publicized behavior there was so much like your non-publicized behavior here that I wouldnot be surprised if you have been banned from more games than Sindome and Armageddon.
You also appear to be incapable of understanding when someone wants to sever ties with you and does not want you around. It was specifically said to you in a nice way that you aren't wanted here. Let's go with the not so nice way: we on staff feel that you are a terrible player that we do not want around. Why? Does it matter at this point? Not to us; we've tried to explain this to you and you refuse to understand. Go with "staff finds that you are impossible to communicate with in any capacity" and leave it there.
The other part really isn't so hard to understand, but let's go there again. You are trying to appeal something that won't be overturned. This was told to you at the time.
So...reiterating...
No. It won't be overturned.
No. We do not want you back.
No. You are a drain on our staff.
No. We don't care how awesome you think you were.
No. You don't understand how terrible you are and you probably won't. We've already been over your issues repeatedly.
No. We don't care if you think this is unfair.
No. We don't care what you have to say. We don't want you here.
One-way communication is unproductive. You spent your years of playing this game with us trying to communicate to you and you refusing to listen to that communication. As such, you now see and will continue to see what it feels like to be on the other end of one-way communication.
Your spam has only reminded us how much we don't want you playing this game. Responding at all will only strengthen our resolve to ignore you.
Read this email, particularly the "no" parts (I bolded all of them so that you would at least have to struggle to ignore them this time around), and kindly fuck off.
Nyr
Producer
ArmageddonMUD Staff
Resending with formatting so that you don't once again try and create another account (by the way, we're scrambling this one, we don't want to talk to you at all) just to ask us to resend it because you had trouble understanding "no". I'll also bold things for you.
X,
To put it bluntly:
Not just "no", but "hell no".
You have sent 12 unanswered or uninterrupted emails in the span of several hours, not including several more sent to other staff members. It appears that it did not cross your mind once that this is unreasonable behavior. Had you done this at a place of employment, it would have resulted in your termination. Had you done this to an acquaintance or friend in real life, they would have (and should have) written you off as clingy, obsessive, and potentially deserving of a restraining order. This would appear to be because you haven't changed a bit: you are the same needy, narcissistic player that cannot do without having some form of staff attention focused on you (negative or otherwise). You cannot abide a "no" (and for the nth time, you've proven that).
This isn't limited to our game. You've been banned from another game, much to our surprise (insert sarcasm here), and you went by the same name there. No, we don't care what you think happened there, so go ahead and stuff it in advance. Your publicized behavior there was so much like your non-publicized behavior here that I wouldnot be surprised if you have been banned from more games than Sindome and Armageddon.
You also appear to be incapable of understanding when someone wants to sever ties with you and does not want you around. It was specifically said to you in a nice way that you aren't wanted here. Let's go with the not so nice way: we on staff feel that you are a terrible player that we do not want around. Why? Does it matter at this point? Not to us; we've tried to explain this to you and you refuse to understand. Go with "staff finds that you are impossible to communicate with in any capacity" and leave it there.
The other part really isn't so hard to understand, but let's go there again. You are trying to appeal something that won't be overturned. This was told to you at the time.
So...reiterating...
No. It won't be overturned.
No. We do not want you back.
No. You are a drain on our staff.
No. We don't care how awesome you think you were.
No. You don't understand how terrible you are and you probably won't. We've already been over your issues repeatedly.
No. We don't care if you think this is unfair.
No. We don't care what you have to say. We don't want you here.
One-way communication is unproductive. You spent your years of playing this game with us trying to communicate to you and you refusing to listen to that communication. As such, you now see and will continue to see what it feels like to be on the other end of one-way communication.
Your spam has only reminded us how much we don't want you playing this game. Responding at all will only strengthen our resolve to ignore you.
Read this email, particularly the "no" parts (I bolded all of them so that you would at least have to struggle to ignore them this time around), and kindly fuck off.
Nyr
Producer
ArmageddonMUD Staff
I'll just follow that with some notes:
1. The reason Nyr received several emails from me is because he solicited information on who I might have played in the north. I had to find these things digging through two email addressed used over the years, so I sent both names and other information supporting the fact that I was a real player as I found them. That's why he has several emails.
2. The "several" other staff members emailed were Adhira and Nessalin, Nyr's fellow Producers. I asked them if it was appropriate that he was pretending not to know who I was, even as I followed his instructions and did the work.
3. I am not banned from Sindome. I play it to this day. He drew that information from an old board post which is long since irrelevant.
4. The individual who submitted the request Nyr was replying to was not me. He stated this plainly in two sentences, but Nyr appears to have ignored it in his rush to go on the offensive.
Oh well. At least civility will be hard policy on the game I'm working on, even for staff. If a staff member had addressed anyone in that fashion on either of my games, I don't care who, they'd be fired.
