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Post by Deleted on Jul 10, 2015 22:05:42 GMT -5
armqwertytwo confirmed staff
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Jeshin
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Post by Jeshin on Jul 10, 2015 22:47:00 GMT -5
I don't get why people are making suppositions or asking questions here when the post was clearly made on Optional Realities. I mean it is highly probable that any ARM player who posts on OR also reads or posts here but still. If you care enough to ask, you should ask.
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Post by lulz on Jul 11, 2015 13:37:44 GMT -5
Quiet you. You're just trying to bump up the hits on OR. I see right through you mister.
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Post by Jeshin on Jul 11, 2015 13:39:46 GMT -5
Nah if I wanted to bump OR, I'd pay Bitters to do another sponsored post.
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Post by lulz on Jul 11, 2015 15:04:50 GMT -5
jcarter should totally charge you for that.
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Post by werekankforlife on Aug 24, 2015 17:10:24 GMT -5
"Armageddon isn't a religion, it takes more than devotion. Time as a player doesn't trump being on staff, and never has, given that staff work as a team and consult with each other. Your continued insistence to the contrary is a major source of frustration in staffing your character to this day. The game changes over time; what was true 5, 10 or even 15 years ago doesn't always have bearing on how the game works today." Nyr 9/2/14
This was a reply to a staff complaint I submitted. I found this hilarious since it is against the "rules" for us to "work as a team and consult with each other." "The game changes over time; what was true 5, 10 or even 15 years ago doesn't always have bearing on how the game works today." Unless, of course, it was something you did to piss staff off 5, 10, or 15 years ago, which most certainly has a bearing on how things work today.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 27, 2015 19:48:42 GMT -5
.. I dont understand that statement. You believe it is unfair to disallow players to communicate oocly and coordinate with each other, because .. Staff coordinates with each other OOCly?
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Post by latrineswimmer on Aug 27, 2015 20:18:41 GMT -5
Yeah I didn't really get that, either.
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Post by bastilleangel on Aug 28, 2015 0:54:37 GMT -5
Doesn't seem to me that she was asking staff for anything, she just mentioned the plot in her character report and staff told her to stop doing that or be force-stored. It's entirely possible that she was once granted the R/W skills by a staff member after being ICly taught by a sorcerer, but was shut down when she wanted to make a plot out of it. I almost didn't reply to this, but... ...Oldtwink largely has the right of it. Although it sounds like two different contemporary plot lines are getting conflated here, the essence is correct. I was among the "inner circle" of that group. There's one last person from those days still playing, and I don't want to spill anything here that will make her Arm. experience unpleasant; I'd also be "outing" myself irrevocably, and I *might* go back and want to play some year decade when Nyr isn't in a position of pseudo-authority. I can confirm, though, that it was literally "Drop this plot or you and your group are getting force-stored". After the initial wave of shock, it broke my heart. The worst by far were all the other amazing folks who were telling that story along with me suffering; it was terrible. It's one thing to get Plothammered( tm) when it's just yourself. After a decade+ of Arm., you learn to roll with the punches and move on after an unfortunate staff interaction. When I saw the pain it caused my friends, though, people I had grown to care about in RL, I knew it was time to leave. I still miss the game, but have no plans on starting back up while a creature such as Nyr is "large and in charge".
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Post by Deleted on Aug 28, 2015 15:19:49 GMT -5
It's very typical behaviour for this generation of staff. They'll occasionally indulge a player when they think it's harmless, like giving out the R/W skills; what are you really gonna do with those? Usually the answer will be fuck-all, so some admin probably felt like this was a good opportunity to do something that he could later point to when someone complains about not being allowed to do anything. But then it turned out that you wanted to actually do something autonomous and significant, and staff is all about savagely preventing this from happening in today's Armageddon. They feel so threatened by anything that isn't their own idea and under their direct control that they'd rather run a game where nothing happens than a game where things happen which aren't of their making.
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Post by my2sids on Aug 28, 2015 16:17:13 GMT -5
It's very typical behaviour for this generation of staff. They'll occasionally indulge a player when they think it's harmless, like giving out the R/W skills; what are you really gonna do with those? Usually the answer will be fuck-all, so some admin probably felt like this was a good opportunity to do something that he could later point to when someone complains about not being allowed to do anything. But then it turned out that you wanted to actually do something autonomous and significant, and staff is all about savagely preventing this from happening in today's Armageddon. They feel so threatened by anything that isn't their own idea and under their direct control that they'd rather run a game where nothing happens than a game where things happen which aren't of their making. I helped staff re-write documentation for a clan and am currently adding rooms + plot items for the clan without any master crafting abilities. Overall, I've had a great experience with certain staff members in how cooperative they are. Others like to micromanage, yup. I think it depends on the team you're working for. Mileage may vary, etc.
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punished ppurg
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Post by punished ppurg on Aug 28, 2015 16:56:44 GMT -5
Keyword: certain staff members. Not all staffers are bad, but the ones who are have proven themselves to be pretty terrible.
It's like college professors with tenure. Everybody established is so good IRL friends with each other that they'll never take criticism (even legit criticism unlike the sometimes hyperbole here) seriously. Nobody will ever ask Talia to leave for example because she's such good friends with everyone, despite her obvious incapacity to hold admin+ in a MUD from a coding experience standpoint. She's just clueless but that doesn't matter because she's friends with all the other staff. And staff are more concerned about having fun pulling puppet strings than offering a complete product in the form of the game itself.
And Nyr isn't going to leave because he's practically the golden boy from what I understand. Have you seen his recent posts where he's attempting civility? It's the difference between a rat blatantly crawling across your floor, and a rat trying to hide in the drywall. No matter how hard you try to hide it, the issue is still there. Yeah I admit he's damned if he does and damned if he don't, and from what's been compiled here on the shadowboard if there's ever been an admin who deserved such it'd be him. You got to pay the blood price for retribution at this point.
The way it's set up, with everyone being one unified front against the shit playerbase? There's no accountability, and there's no real point for improvement or action at all because the status quo is "acceptable".
Yeah it's shit, and yeah it's harsh. This should be discouraging. Armageddon is in the position where it cares so little about its players that it needs to die out. Someone leak the tarball to me and I guarantee I can do it better, can collect a better admin team from here and other places, and even offer the position to the staffers who've proven they're not part of the problem (at least by not proving they are).
TL;DR you can kill the game and it will come back better than it is now. I'd bet on it.
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Post by sirra on Aug 28, 2015 20:57:48 GMT -5
If Nyr had always been as civil as he's been lately, then this board probably wouldn't exist. However, there's always Nessalin if you're feeling nostalgic for some good old backhanding.
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punished ppurg
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Post by punished ppurg on Aug 28, 2015 23:48:52 GMT -5
dont stirr thr tird :0)
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Post by Deleted on Aug 31, 2015 13:30:46 GMT -5
If Nyr had always been as civil as he's been lately, then this board probably wouldn't exist. However, there's always Nessalin if you're feeling nostalgic for some good old backhanding. The only time nessalin has ever had anything to say to me was in relation to Nyr bullshit, and if I had to guess, I would guess that's because someone emailed him and he felt obligated to say something.
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