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Post by RogueRougeRanger on Apr 17, 2015 10:00:46 GMT -5
The corpulent, pallid man... Chosen Lord Dragean Tenneshi.... It makes me sad to think Red Ranger isn't playing anymore. I hope you don't mind me putting up the sdesc, but saying who you played... gave it away anyhow. Welcome aboard. I don't mind at all your sharing Dragean's sdesc. Did you recognize that Dragean's sdesc and mdesc were in part an homage to Warlord Iakovitzes Tor?
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Post by Deleted on Apr 17, 2015 10:05:07 GMT -5
Htaniya was scary. You could tell just from meeting her that she was one of the "nicer" nobles/templars that you nonetheless, or perhaps for that reason, really, REALLY don't want to piss off. Loved it, by the way.
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Post by RogueRougeRanger on Apr 17, 2015 10:06:09 GMT -5
I'm almost positive I'm the reason your bounty was rejected by staff. I may have been a little energetic about collecting on it. Sorry. Hey, no need to apologize! We were just trying to have fun and play our characters in a way that makes sense. To be honest, it took a long time of me pushing the Red Hunt before it created some buzz and people really started to get into it. I don't know who you played, but I appreciate that you took part in my little 'plot!'
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Post by someguy on Apr 17, 2015 11:12:36 GMT -5
Sometimes the sense your characters pushed only applied to yourself.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 17, 2015 11:28:51 GMT -5
Oh man, Sargax was one of the best characters ever.
Glad you decided to post here. Folks over staff side try to write me off because hurr hurr drugs, but yeah, that sort of dismissiveness is a little harder to swing when it's an MD putting out something similar.
Anyway, thank you. I don't think that asking for more transparency and niceness in dealings with the staff is much to ask.
When it's one or several people who can be dismissed as "pfffttt, troublemakers" then such demands are just swept under the rug... It's a little different when people who don't have long standing beef with Nyr do the same thing. When it's people who can't be brushed off as "ohhh, nevermind so and so, they're just having a hard time." Bullshit, if you ask me.
At any rate, Cat Rambo made a post on her Facebook yesterday about how ugly it is for people to vocalize displeasure publicly, which she maybe ironically did by voicing her displeasure publicly, but here's the thing:
Nothing will change unless people vocalize displeasure publicly. So again, thank you.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 17, 2015 11:36:08 GMT -5
The purpose of voicing complaints is to notify the powers that be there is a problem so it can be remedied. What happens when those capable of remedying the problem don't seem to care or ignore the complaints?
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Post by Deleted on Apr 17, 2015 11:44:41 GMT -5
What happens?
I'll take "how do the shadowboards form?" for $500, Jenki.
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Post by Patuk on Apr 17, 2015 11:47:42 GMT -5
Dude, your templar was crazy in her early days.
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Post by jcarter on Apr 17, 2015 11:48:43 GMT -5
i'm glad that this place can serve as a space where veterans can share their history and experiences. welcome to the board.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 17, 2015 12:54:50 GMT -5
Holy shit...I was..not expecting that too be honest. Welcome too the Shadow Boards though.
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Post by RogueRougeRanger on Apr 17, 2015 13:02:28 GMT -5
I'm very sorry to hear you have backed off , for the moment anyway, RR. The Chosen Lard was one of the highlights for me, during that time in Tuluk. I am behind you 100% in wanting to collect Tuluki tatts. Too much, there is no real danger in cities where there should be. Here's why I was disappointed at the time that this one little plot of mine was OOC'ly squelched, and why I'm doubly disappointed now. What if my little Red Hunt bounty was allowed to go forward and it produced more danger and excitement for Tuluki PCs? What if that then led to Tuluki PCs banding together to lay traps to kill the bounty hunter PCs? What if this led to some buzz that there's fun and dangerous cat and mouse RP up around Tuluk? What if that buzz improved the size of the Tuluki playerbase? What if...?
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Post by Deleted on Apr 17, 2015 13:07:08 GMT -5
I think the bounty for Tuluki hands is the closest its come to actually feeling like there is strife between the city states.
I am appalled that they would curtail you on that front after Nyr made all those public appeals to come play in Tuluk TO ENCOURAGE war-like plots between the city states.
But at the same time that was happening, the same time that Nyr was making all these convincing (convincing, because they even convinced ME to make a Tuluki, which resulted in me sitting there with my head in my hands, bored as fuck for a couple of weeks before finally getting so bored that I asked if I could have my karma back to play a new sorc class character, which actually led to me being banned from the GDB/game) appeals to players to COME TO TULUK, BE THE CHANGE, RAWR...
...he was actually going to cornerstone Naki players and /curtailing/ player-side efforts?
Are you fucking kidding me?
This has to be one of the most clear-cut examples of his lying fuckery that I have seen to date.
Point-blank: Nyr thinks he is some slick son of a bitch if he believes he can lie to the entire player base, on the staff announcements page, while simultaneously going behind their backs and trying to pull strings to make events unfold like HE wanted them to. Sorry, that is just WRONG, and if the rest of the staff refuse to acknowledge that, then they are either cowards, brainwashed, or brainwashed cowards.
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Post by nyrsucks on Apr 17, 2015 13:11:53 GMT -5
The Red Hunt was a good idea. However, it was being implemented by super-genius HGs.
The problem I think was that the south could dispatch so much more dangerous individuals. The south can dispatch gemmers, Super HGs, and gemmer HGs, etc to go and squash the northern PCs and it wouldn't be hard. You'd need to let them build up quite a few people instead of instantly squashing any little party that went outside with overwhelming force.
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Post by RogueRougeRanger on Apr 17, 2015 13:18:24 GMT -5
I interacted with Dragean on my last serious character. I'd made an independent bard in Tuluk, as in not part of the Circle. Was doing card tricks and other random shit in bars using the pickpocket skillset, and at one point I sang one song in the Sanctuary (an anti-Allanak one) after which people hilariously got offended because the song was slightly raunchy. They acted like I'd walked into a Victorian stately home and sung Fuck You Gently or something. The song merely mentioned a southern noble liking elves. Pretty much immediately after that, I start getting Wayed by some Circle NPC telling me to join them or else. After singing one song, not even for money. I was like, wtf? My character concept is specifically a non-circle bard. I wasn't even calling myself a bard, but of course anyone who expresses themselves in any musical way in Tuluk is immediately a bard. I'd made sure to check the documentation and it said "many bards end up joining the Poets' Circle," which to me does not mean "every single person instantaneously joins the Circle after singing their first song in public." So I ignored the NPC for a while. Somewhere around this time, I became a partizan of Dragean who liked my character for being outside the mould, I guess. I'd sung another song or two, not really very controversial but more kinda comedic and cheeky. I was also doing card tricks and telling jokes. The ridiculous NPC bard keeps contacting me on a daily basis over the course of a week, basically escalating his threats until it's "join or die." It was so retardedly out of proportion and blatantly just a case of picking on the one person who isn't conforming. Note that no PC bards had made any kind of fuzz or brought up needing to join. So that last time, when it turned into direct death threats, I wished up to point out that the documentation specifically states that joining the Circle isn't required. I get some typical snarky Nyr answer that I can't remember now, and I point out the problem with animating NPCs to threaten PCs into doing something that isn't even backed up by the documentation. He then started going on about my skill twinking because I'd been using the pickpocket skills for card tricks, and he hamfistedly steered the conversation towards his goal of storing my character. That was the last time I took the game seriously. I believe I ranted a bit about staff in PMs to RR, and have never logged into the GDB since. The few characters I've made since then have been brief throwaways, the game being tangibly deader each time. Your dude was so cool! PCs that are painted in vibrant and living color are very rare, and I always tried to hire them when I was playing leaders, which was often (the three PCs of mine I mentioned at the beginning of this thread combined for a total of over 10 RL years played). Also as a bonus, your dude had a BOLD MUSTACHE if I recall. I had a weakness for mustached PCs and dwarven women (but NOT mustached dwarven women). I recall that you PM'd me about the screwing you received, but I don't recall that I was much help, and how could I be? Unfortunately, being targeted and harassed by a super powerful NPC for picayune stuff isn't rare on Armageddon. From what Jeshin posted, it sounds like what should have happened to your non-Circle bard was he should have been forced to pay some coins at most. Each time players are targeted to be squashed by untouchable NPCs it's just another brick in the wall between the staff and the playerbase, between immersion and the need to metagame to get by. As yet another example among many, I think I'll eventually get around to sharing the story here of how a Red Robed NPC templar teleported into a player run RPT to save a Kadian merchant trainee from my templar Htaniya who was about to execute the peon publicly.
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Post by RogueRougeRanger on Apr 17, 2015 13:24:11 GMT -5
Htaniya was scary. You could tell just from meeting her that she was one of the "nicer" nobles/templars that you nonetheless, or perhaps for that reason, really, REALLY don't want to piss off. Loved it, by the way. Thanks for the kind recollections of my last PC. I was shooting for the "iron fist in a velvet glove" persona where she would be friendly and cordial but everyone knew it was a front. It's not an easy balance to strike and I'm thrilled that some folks picked up on it, so thanks for sharing!
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