punished ppurg
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Why are we still here? Just to suffer?
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Post by punished ppurg on Apr 17, 2015 0:12:24 GMT -5
He better be taking PMs because I'm sending one whether he wants it or not.
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Post by BitterFlashback on Apr 17, 2015 0:15:47 GMT -5
Wow, Bitter using grammar and RedRanger on the shadow board. What the fuck. RRR was the last guy I needed to conceal my identity on behalf of. So expect to see grammar, a keyboard that doesn't have dodgy "i", "e", and "shift" keys, and a conspicuous absence of sentences beginning with a conjunction. I mean, unless I randomly decide to go retro. I have it on good authority he's at least reading them.
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Jeshin
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Post by Jeshin on Apr 17, 2015 0:17:56 GMT -5
Does that mean with RR on here that you will be officially outing yourself?
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Post by BitterFlashback on Apr 17, 2015 0:24:26 GMT -5
Does that mean with RR on here that you will be officially outing yourself? Possibly. I'm debating it. the funny thing is, as I've read more and more of Nyr's posts, it occurred to me that hiding my typing style might be pointless because his sentence structure is so similar to mine.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 17, 2015 0:30:18 GMT -5
Were you the really fat Tuluki noble a couple of years ago?
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Post by BitterFlashback on Apr 17, 2015 1:22:02 GMT -5
Yeah, RogueRougeRanger was Drageon, the rotund, tons of fun man. (I'm bad at recalling sdescs.) RR's characters were always my favorite to henchman for, dating way back.
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nobody
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Post by nobody on Apr 17, 2015 1:40:06 GMT -5
The corpulent, pallid man... Chosen Lord Dragean Tenneshi.... It makes me sad to think Red Ranger isn't playing anymore. I hope you don't mind me putting up the sdesc, but saying who you played... gave it away anyhow. Welcome aboard.
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Post by BitterFlashback on Apr 17, 2015 1:42:22 GMT -5
I'm also bad with names. This is known.
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Post by legendary on Apr 17, 2015 1:52:00 GMT -5
I'm almost positive I'm the reason your bounty was rejected by staff.
I may have been a little energetic about collecting on it.
Sorry.
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Post by sirra on Apr 17, 2015 3:00:30 GMT -5
It's when excellent players and leaders like Red Ranger quit, and share their reasons and grievances in a very cogent fashion, that it makes me hope that it might shake things up staff side. Maybe not at the top, but in the pillars. You would have to be completely out of touch to find anything positive in pushing good people away over petty, meaningless things.
They have to realize that the more they take away the player's capacity to have any meaningful agency in the game world, the more they stifle interest in their own game. Because we're there ultimately, to tell our own stories too.
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bracken
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Post by bracken on Apr 17, 2015 4:09:28 GMT -5
I'm very sorry to hear you have backed off , for the moment anyway, RR. The Chosen Lard was one of the highlights for me, during that time in Tuluk. I am behind you 100% in wanting to collect Tuluki tatts. Too much, there is no real danger in cities where there should be.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 17, 2015 9:46:21 GMT -5
I interacted with Dragean on my last serious character. I'd made an independent bard in Tuluk, as in not part of the Circle. Was doing card tricks and other random shit in bars using the pickpocket skillset, and at one point I sang one song in the Sanctuary (an anti-Allanak one) after which people hilariously got offended because the song was slightly raunchy. They acted like I'd walked into a Victorian stately home and sung Fuck You Gently or something. The song merely mentioned a southern noble liking elves.
Pretty much immediately after that, I start getting Wayed by some Circle NPC telling me to join them or else. After singing one song, not even for money. I was like, wtf? My character concept is specifically a non-circle bard. I wasn't even calling myself a bard, but of course anyone who expresses themselves in any musical way in Tuluk is immediately a bard. I'd made sure to check the documentation and it said "many bards end up joining the Poets' Circle," which to me does not mean "every single person instantaneously joins the Circle after singing their first song in public." So I ignored the NPC for a while.
Somewhere around this time, I became a partizan of Dragean who liked my character for being outside the mould, I guess. I'd sung another song or two, not really very controversial but more kinda comedic and cheeky. I was also doing card tricks and telling jokes. The ridiculous NPC bard keeps contacting me on a daily basis over the course of a week, basically escalating his threats until it's "join or die." It was so retardedly out of proportion and blatantly just a case of picking on the one person who isn't conforming. Note that no PC bards had made any kind of fuzz or brought up needing to join.
So that last time, when it turned into direct death threats, I wished up to point out that the documentation specifically states that joining the Circle isn't required. I get some typical snarky Nyr answer that I can't remember now, and I point out the problem with animating NPCs to threaten PCs into doing something that isn't even backed up by the documentation. He then started going on about my skill twinking because I'd been using the pickpocket skills for card tricks, and he hamfistedly steered the conversation towards his goal of storing my character.
That was the last time I took the game seriously. I believe I ranted a bit about staff in PMs to RR, and have never logged into the GDB since. The few characters I've made since then have been brief throwaways, the game being tangibly deader each time.
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Post by RogueRougeRanger on Apr 17, 2015 9:57:25 GMT -5
Some of you may be surprised that I played primarily in Tuluk. I had 1 serious southern character but otherwise all Tuluki's and tribals in Luirs (1 al'seik). During my tenure Raleris and Dragean were the nobility of Tuluk. Really they were the only two and while I have made previous statements about how Tuluk may have been better off without as entrenched a power duo as the two of them, I want to also say that both of them did a lot for at least creating some kind of conflict in Tuluk. If you were anybody you could always count on one of them bending your ear about the shortcomings or gossipy rumor stuff about the other. Elrum was an interesting guy, and I'm sure that he had to be fun to play through most of it. I wonder how much of a raw deal you got from the staff animating the Circle NPCs toward the end, though? Raleris's presence really made my play of Dragean fun. Having a long lived foil leads to all sorts of fun for me, and hopefully that showed. I agree that Tuluk was shortchanged by essentially only having Dragean and Raleris as the nobles there for literally RL years. I have some thoughts on that, and I'll probably share more soon.
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Post by RogueRougeRanger on Apr 17, 2015 9:58:50 GMT -5
Wow, Bitter using grammar and RedRanger on the shadow board. What the fuck. I loved playing with you. Are you taking PMs? Yep, I'm happy to take PMs.
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Jeshin
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Post by Jeshin on Apr 17, 2015 10:00:23 GMT -5
According to private circle docs, this is the situation, also I last played a bard 2 years ago so grain of salt people...
If you are a Tuluki performer that does so in public places then you have one of three options... Option 1: Audition to join the Circle. Why? Because the Circle jealously controls its influence on the population via entertainment arts. Think of them as the propaganda gestapo that have a love/hate relationship with the Faithful because part of their passion is artistic expression and part of their purpose is making people think/feel what the faithful want. Option 2: You pay a tithe for the right to perform unassociated with the Circle. This normally equates to anywhere between 10-50% of what you make off performances or about 500sid if you perform in a big spot like the Sanctuary or what have you. This is evident by the performers in the Sanctuary stage area, only one of them is a Circle bard, the others pay a tithe to the circle for the right to perform publically without being associated. It's all about the money baby. Option 3: Ignore the Circle. This will lead to an NPC likely taking interest in you and if there are strong bard players around likely one of the bardic PCs will be given a directive to bring you into the fold. An example of this was when Kurac had that one aide PC who did a troupe performance in the Tooth. Because they used the word troupe, made it a big public performance, and all that shit. The Circle basically told Kurac that they had to cough up a fee or there'd be problems. To wit they tapped Elrum "banished" Irofel to go speak with Hurlen-da about it. Essentially told him to go extort money from Kurac in Luirs. You can ignore them though, for the most part Circle PCs aren't willing to follow the staff logic to suicide just to enforce a nobody getting pressured.
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