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Post by silentlamb on Apr 28, 2015 13:39:19 GMT -5
Pretty sure they've the same strength, my experiences with them have been roughly the same. As for their endurance and agility... The two are vastly different, I, as a celf, have sparred with a delf before and can confirm that celf exceptional agility is far slower than whatever the delf I was fighting had. For every action I made in combat they made at least two, often three. Their endurance is also something like that of a dwarf or something, Jesus Christ I've taken crit falls on my neck as a delf while climbing and only lost 50~ stun points.
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Post by sirra on Apr 28, 2015 15:39:26 GMT -5
Sadly, the racial stats given there probably hasn't been fully accurate since the 1990s. Celf wisdom, for example, I recall being nerfed a while ago. |
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Post by Patuk on Apr 28, 2015 17:30:44 GMT -5
Yep. Play a bunch of mages and you'll see for yourself celf wisdom isn't special.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 28, 2015 21:14:59 GMT -5
I'd be surprised if any tweaks were made. Not in the past ... decade, I guess? For breeds, ride is a racial ability. Agility affects its cap. For celves it's steal. So yeah, you can have a celf with 70+ steal for example and having no guild/subguild that even has a steal skill in it.
I do not think breeds get their ride to master. Unless maybe AI agility? I dont know. I dont ever recall seeing any breed hit 80 riding without being a ranger. So who knows, maybe it was tweaked.
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Post by Patuk on Apr 29, 2015 16:03:50 GMT -5
Know how burglars are assassins, only with shittier poison/backstab, and no parry or sap?
Know how burglars do get a stat boost, as well as pick that is worth a damn, and actual steal?
Well..
Play a burglar/protector.
You will have parry.
Hell, you will have goddamn shield use.
You'll even have subdue/guard.
Prioritise strength, and you will have all the ways to blend in as a bad-statted warrior, and won't have to play a weaker burglar for it at all.
With burglar's throw cap, you won't even be bad at assassinating people.
Be a shady bastard, play burglar/protector.
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Post by sirra on Apr 29, 2015 16:09:02 GMT -5
I do not think breeds get their ride to master. Unless maybe AI agility? I dont know. I dont ever recall seeing any breed hit 80 riding without being a ranger. So who knows, maybe it was tweaked. This was my previous experience as well, which is why I was surprised to hear other people had experienced differently. But it does seem, evidently, to be possible. Know how burglars are assassins, only with shittier poison/backstab, and no parry or sap? You'll even have subdue/guard. FYI, protectors don't get subdue. But they should! Also, burglars have a much lower weapon skill cap, and would probably need about 10-20 days play time to catch up to a newbie assassin's starting offense and vs. humanoids hidden stat. Depending on how twinky they are. I honestly don't see any up side to playing a burglar, unless you strictly want to avoid combat, not seek it out. Does anyone know how high lancer/bruiser/aggressor etc, get their one weapon skill? Kronibas should know. |
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Post by julio on Apr 29, 2015 16:33:31 GMT -5
I once played with a Sergeant from house Tor who was a burglar. She beat the shit out of my warrior on the reg.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 29, 2015 20:55:57 GMT -5
I once played with a Sergeant from house Tor who was a burglar. She beat the shit out of my warrior on the reg. ... yeah, you can beat a carru with a merchant pc too if you work it right (I've seen it, not done it).  Warrior < ranger|assassin < burglar|pickpocket < merchant is the heirarchy of how high respective weapons skills go in choice of class by mundane class. If she did it, her stats, or her off/def were monstrous. Just sayin'. |
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Warrior < ranger|assassin < burglar|pickpocket < merchant is the heirarchy of how high respective weapons skills go in choice of class by mundane class. If she did it, her stats, or her off/def were monstrous. Just sayin'.