Best use of extended subguilds?

If a character was DEAD SET on remaining in the rinth, then it would have its uses...mostly you'd still be a warrior who could sneak and hide (hello delf warriors), but the sap or backstab would just be an additional 'fuck you' cherry on top to the typical warrior-esque ganking.  As toxic described.


It has a lot of potential for gickers who can combine it with stupid shit, but I still think any subguild that gives a weapon skill is preferable for a ruk.

I don't know about that Nanta. But I'd be curious to know for sure if anyone can chime in on the matter. I didn't think it did though. I'd like to see how a Rukkian Bruiser or Berserker does, if they've fully implemented that. I can just imagine a Rukkian dwarf Bruiser two rounding people, or the same thing for the berserker. Though Bruiser would probably be my personal go to. Just an odd thought.

I think a rukkian with a high agility is going to do well with any combat sub-guild.

I love this thread.

I have played several Slipknife and they suck in the following ways.

1: Poison. So many people can poison. Have them taint your blade. I don't think picking this subguild makes sense if you can get someone else to do it much cheaper than all the taints you have to buy and waste to level yours up to something useful. All my slipknives never bothered training poison because someone else could just do it for them, like I said, cheaper than it would cost to aquire enough taints to poison my own stuff. NOT a reason to pick Slipknife.

2: Throw is an AWESOME skill. But both warriors and rangers branch it. Other classes have no business being a slipknife except maybe magickers who could benefit from throwing magic tainted blades, etc...

3: Max sneak and hide is awesome... That's one cool bonus. I LOVED having a warrior with sneak and hide maxed. It rocked. But other extended subguilds could give max sneak and hide + other useful skills. (Rogue and cutpurse both do this: right?!?!)

4: Backstab can't be maxed to a level where it's useful... I found it ALWAYS better to just straight out and out attack. Maybe if you're a ranger you can shoot something until it falls down, then sneak in and backstab it. But why would you do that when you can just.... I don't know. Shoot it again?

5: Sap.. Maybe worth it... don't know. I never had used sap with any character. Does any one know if Sapping with a big two handed maul is possible? Or is just attacking with the weapon a better option?

Omg, I haven't considered that before!

The drawback for ranger/protector is that it starts you with parry, which gimps your Defense, unless you go to extreme lengths to circumvent the why of it.

(You don't raise Defense if you have the parry skill learned and are holding a weapon, no matter what damage you take).

Personally, I say fuck it. In a world where pike-wielding muls exist, just twink that shit like you were a warrior.

You are failing the skill, but unlike offence, defensive skills can't simultaneously raise. Basically, if you have a shield, you'll only raise shield use. If you have a weapon, parry raises. If you have neither, defense raises. The only way to circumvent it is to lack the proper skills.

Still, if protector shield use goes up to master, I say it might be worth it, if you can still somehow raise defense and not get people casting you angry glances.