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Post by Deleted on Jan 16, 2015 13:42:51 GMT -5
That'd be cool if staff could also see the future or even visualize the future.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 16, 2015 13:47:00 GMT -5
Well, you know. They kind of can. It's been shown consistently as hell by the stories on this very forum that unless it's planned out and/or appealing to those in charge, you can't and won't make a lasting (coded) impact on the world in any way unless it's in line with what is wanted by staff members. So... you know, you can't really blow up a building Muk doesn't know will explode, because unless staff decides to change it and play along, you're just an idiot power-emoting in a tavern. Yes, the futility of it all. It's stupid, but there you go.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 16, 2015 13:50:14 GMT -5
Magick is technology. Failing to recognize it's usefulness makes Tuluki leaders unreasonably foolish. I'm sure if Muk dropped a volcano on Allanak the people of Tuluk wouldn't be too offended. Muk too is a sorcerer, or has that been reconned?
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Post by dcdc on Jan 16, 2015 13:58:47 GMT -5
Tuluk commoners at large? Yea know shit about, don't use it.
Don't fool your self into thinking higher Elevel of Tuluk society at lest have some knowledge... or Muk isn't hogging power trying to actively prevent any magick that could become a threat to him and his power structure.
Muk had tree's of life or some shit, somebody in Tuluk wouldn't keep those tree's unless they needed them for defiling.
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Post by jkarr on Jan 16, 2015 14:06:05 GMT -5
dcdc yep. People making pcs with the intent of pking large swathes of generalized people is problematic in and of itself, if it is done without respect for the time and effort that other players put into their own characters their time and effort playing is no one elses burden but theirs if their char background is solid and their chars actions line up with it icly none of that other shit matters
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Post by Deleted on Jan 16, 2015 14:06:57 GMT -5
Tuluk's tree of life (Isar's tree) is gone now.
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Post by dcdc on Jan 16, 2015 14:12:25 GMT -5
I don't think that's an argument Jkarr... a player kill over good role play is fine.
Creating a character with the express purpose just to give you a loose IC reason to kill whole swaths the player base, just makes you a griefer and maybe that player should go play call of duty.
Like seriously why would any one play an RPI their only intent killing every player every chance they get? Besides I dunno, having the maturity level of sexually frustrated 16 year old?
Again: To player kill over solid role play reasons "Ordered too" "Payed too" "Character was threat" "Clan Docs" "WAR" Great good, slaughter away, I'll fucking help!
To Player kill because you are disgruntled with players/staff/the game/life... you're a dweeb with no business playing an RPI. There are a myrid of better coded, well polished games out there for you to enjoy!
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Post by Deleted on Jan 16, 2015 14:13:02 GMT -5
dcdc yep. People making pcs with the intent of pking large swathes of generalized people is problematic in and of itself, if it is done without respect for the time and effort that other players put into their own characters their time and effort playing is no one elses burden but theirs if their char background is solid and their chars actions line up with it icly none of that other shit matters There's a difference between viewing something as a burden and viewing it as a courtesy that maybe if you don't like when out of nowhere without any notice, possibly even anything but a single line you don't even get a chance to respond to (in the case of a successful enough backstab, for example), it's just gone nowhere, up in smoke... that maybe you would show the other pc in question the type of death you'd want to see for your own. I know it's asking too much. Clearly it's just their burden. The internet, making sociopaths through complete lack of empathy since the late 80s.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 16, 2015 14:14:02 GMT -5
I don't think that's an argument Jkarr... a player kill over good role play is fine. Creating a character with the express purpose just to give you a loose IC reason to kill whole swaths the player base, just makes you a griefer and maybe that player should go play call of duty. Like seriously why would any one play an RPI their only intent killing every player every chance they get? Besides I dunno, having the maturity level of sexually frustrated 16 year old? Again: To player kill over solid role play reasons "Ordered too" "Payed too" "Character was threat" "Clan Docs" "WAR" Great good, slaughter away, I'll fucking help! To Player kill because you are disgruntled with players/staff/the game/life... you're a dweeb with no business playing an RPI. There are a myrid of better coded, well polished games out there for you to enjoy! Yeah, you put this a whole lot better than I could.
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Post by jkarr on Jan 16, 2015 15:04:10 GMT -5
There's a difference between viewing something as a burden and viewing it as a courtesy that maybe if you don't like when out of nowhere without any notice, possibly even anything but a single line you don't even get a chance to respond to (in the case of a successful enough backstab, for example), it's just gone nowhere, up in smoke... that maybe you would show the other pc in question the type of death you'd want to see for your own. I know it's asking too much. Clearly it's just their burden. The internet, making sociopaths through complete lack of empathy since the late 80s. if thats the baseline ur using for that diagnosis, im surprised u havent selfdiagnosed urself and all the other members of staff who actively practice that same shit by not allowing players to have their chars resurrected when their death throws them into buckets of tears
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Post by jkarr on Jan 16, 2015 15:14:26 GMT -5
I don't think that's an argument Jkarr... a player kill over good role play is fine. Creating a character with the express purpose just to give you a loose IC reason to kill whole swaths the player base, just makes you a griefer and maybe that player should go play call of duty. Like seriously why would any one play an RPI their only intent killing every player every chance they get? Besides I dunno, having the maturity level of sexually frustrated 16 year old? Again: To player kill over solid role play reasons "Ordered too" "Payed too" "Character was threat" "Clan Docs" "WAR" Great good, slaughter away, I'll fucking help! To Player kill because you are disgruntled with players/staff/the game/life... you're a dweeb with no business playing an RPI. There are a myrid of better coded, well polished games out there for you to enjoy! good now tell us how u really feel lol ppl play for all kinds of reasons, none of which are any of my business nor have any relevance if staff deems their play lines up with game rules and documentation and realistically takes the gameworld into account. thats all folks
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Post by Deleted on Jan 16, 2015 15:15:55 GMT -5
jkarr First off, its nice to see you back in the saddle and trying to give me shit as much as possible. I can finally ring in the new year. Secondly, there's actually a major connection between lack of empathy and sociopathy, though sociopathy is now more correctly referred to as antisocial personality disorder. (Link, for the hell of it: psychcentral.com/disorders/antisocial-personality-disorder-symptoms/ ) Third, who said I'm diagnosing anyone as anything? I was infusing my friday morning posting with snark, because it always winds up being that with you, and it was an apt comment, as the evidence bears out, though you should know again, that it wasn't a diagnosis. Fourth, there's a difference between breakin the established rules and boundaries of something to help someone's feels and totally disregarding any amount of time/effort/emotion/whatever put into something when you destroy it. I could go on, but frankly it's not worth the effort for someone who's going to have it go in one ear and out the other, and will likely just end up with you lobbing another half-assed attempt at sarcasm or wit at me. I get it, you enjoy being a dick to me because you can get away with it. *shrug* Doesn't validate or improve anything but if that's how you want to waste your time, go for it.
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Post by jkarr on Jan 16, 2015 15:20:16 GMT -5
jkarr First off, its nice to see you back in the saddle and trying to give me shit as much as possible. I can finally ring in the new year. Secondly, there's actually a major connection between lack of empathy and sociopathy, though sociopathy is now more correctly referred to as antisocial personality disorder. (Link, for the hell of it: psychcentral.com/disorders/antisocial-personality-disorder-symptoms/ ) Third, who said I'm diagnosing anyone as anything? I was infusing my friday morning posting with snark, because it always winds up being that with you, and it was an apt comment, as the evidence bears out, though you should know again, that it wasn't a diagnosis. Fourth, there's a difference between breakin the established rules and boundaries of something to help someone's feels and totally disregarding any amount of time/effort/emotion/whatever put into something when you destroy it. I could go on, but frankly it's not worth the effort for someone who's going to have it go in one ear and out the other, and will likely just end up with you lobbing another half-assed attempt at sarcasm or wit at me. I get it, you enjoy being a dick to me because you can get away with it. *shrug* Doesn't validate or improve anything but if that's how you want to waste your time, go for it. i knew ud be strong enough to get thru it happy new year babe
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Post by Deleted on Jan 16, 2015 15:22:55 GMT -5
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Post by alleys on Jan 16, 2015 16:00:07 GMT -5
Tuluk Society lives in a caste system with almost no mobility between them. You born in a caste and almost always die in the same one. After descrution of Hlum nobles, there is almost no chance to become noble. It would be really hard to put magickers in somewhere. You know, they are really hard to control. Other magickers would be needed to control them. Maybe some type of Tuluki way can be invented, but that's a choice. Also, I had my longest living PCs in Tuluk, and I had chance to play PCs from every caste of the society. Although I did not see any good example but at least virtually I always think powerful and very politicly talented nobles may have some magickers as .. partisans.
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