Byn

Hah. He was strong, but he also wasn't attacking anyone. We attacked him. And I honestly don't think he would have been a problem if the other 6-7 PC's who were supposed to be with us were. That is why I don't think it's a matter of them making it too hard. They made it tough, sure, but we also made it hard on ourselves. And then they made it easier for us as a result of seeing that.

That's just how it felt from my perspective though. I was just one among the many there. For all I know they wanted us all to die at the supped up Mekillot. I've never seen anything as tough as that Mek was.

I direct you to some points in the log such as this.

A ruddy-brown mekillot attacks the compact, sinewy man.

Take a look through the log and you'll see stuff like this. With no lag and little rhyme or reason. Some staffer was animated in the NPC using commands on weak PCs which instantly destroyed them.

Let's take a moment to think about this since you're probably missing my point. If the Byn group had wandered up to a mekillot NPC with no staff online and attacked it they would have killed it with zero casualties, but the staff made the mekillot harder to kill by using lag-free kill commands to off the new PCs of the group.

A good example why would the mekillot know to attack these specific characters? Funny how the mekillot never attacked Albie or the other PCs capable of taking the damage or actually defending against it at all, instead it just wtf pwned the newest members of the Byn at the time.

If you don't see a problem with this then fuck it I'm done.

Hmm. I see your point but there are other ways to look at it. Deciding who to target with your death-machines is going to be pretty complicated. If you only attack the people who can take it.. what fun is that? Nobody gets to rescue or save anyone, nobody feels in danger... If you don't attack the people who can take it you get accused of favoritism or griefing newbies. So, what do you do?

I'd pick random numbers. Kill 3.man kill 2.giant, that sort of thing. Not sure if that's the best manner, but it's what I would have done. Also staff recently talked about this on the GDB: gdb.armageddon.org/index.php/topic,49250.0.html

Their answers are a little concerning, almost like they don't have any sort of guideline in these matters, which they should. But saying it depends on circumstance also makes sense. *shrug* Who would you have attacked?

Rgs, stop fantasizing about some perfect world where assholes like Nyr decide to base outcomes on randomized numbers instead of deep rooted personal biases. Wallowing in fantasy dawg.

Even though I agree with just about every sentiment that Kronibas has on the event, and finds his viewpoint entirely fair, it's also worth keeping in mind that this was not the event that made him quit. It didn't make anyone quit.

One of the charms of Armageddon is unfair murder-machine RPTs from time to time. We don't mind, because a small part of us likes watching it happen to other people.

Of course staff goes about it in an unsubtle, heavy-handed way. Of course some of them take a certain sadistic pleasure from it. But this shadowboard wouldn't exist if this was the dealbreaker for most of us. Even if we don't view these events through rose-tinted glasses, I get the impression that even kronibas is ultimately accepting of it being basically an arm cliche that has happened numerous times.

It's fun to bitch about, and while I do wish that staff would use realistic challenges and play it it to the hilt instead of loading in Murder-Death-Kill Machines and then having to be merciful...Of the top twenty things that have made me want to quit Arm, having an over-statted NPC assassin sicced on me isn't even in the top twenty. And I doubt it is for anyone in this thread.

No one has played Armageddon for any length of time who isn't numb to a bit of unfairness in their deaths. It's only been posted about a bunch here because some seem intent on placing the blame squarely on the players. Even if you're okay with dying, most men will balk at being blamed for it when magic meks, psionics and pike-wielding muls are afoot.

Of course. It was one of the most egregious examples of this particular phenomena I have ever seen.