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Apr 23, 2015 16:32:18 GMT -5 reasonable said:

Apr 23, 2015 16:08:27 GMT -5 @kronibas said:

No, what he wanted to do in the Byn, was make a scouting group to supplement Sefaj, and Harar worked on a mastercraft item to this end, only for the staff to stall on it before finally accepting the request. The mastercraft item given was a really generic looking cloak, and the recipe for it wasn't even functional.

You must not have been playing enough during that time to have gotten a good picture of the murder plot. When that happened, Sefaj was still alive and very much running the show. Koman and his group of scouts... not grebbers... remained mounted outside the camp to be on the lookout for anyone coming or leaving; he was very much on the periphery of that RPT, especially since the mind benders codedly prevented the group in the pit from contacting the group outside.

At any rate, there are maybe things that players could have done in that RPT which would have resulted in a different outcome, but like wrote about in decent detail already, it was ultimately a slaughter fest with the cards stacked against the players. And yes, I do believe this happened because the Byn was large and popular at the time while other projects, like certain northern clans that were being revamped - like shadow artists, the entire Tuluki templarate - were starved for players. Maybe I'm wrong, but that's what it seemed like to me.

You keep calling it the murder plot. Sefaj got killed by an animal. A lot of Bynners get killed by animals, especially big dangerous animals. It's almost a running joke that they either get killed by mekillots, mantises or gravity.

I don't know about your mastercraft so I won't say anything about it, but a lot can happen in a month. Maybe, just maybe, Koman didn't need new cloaks to help Sefaj anymore.

Actually from what I was told, Sefaj wasn't killed by an animal, supposedly it was a bandage fail. The whole plot was against those Jade people, it wasn't just animals that killed them, it was a shit storm of those Jade folk, Meks, Scorpions, ect.

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I had heard it was an animal, but probably because it would've been dumb to admit the bandage fail. Maybe he was mortally wounded by the animal and the bandage finished him off. Oh, the lengths to which people will go to skill up that bandage!

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Apr 23, 2015 16:42:53 GMT -5 reasonable said:

I had heard it was an animal, but probably because it would've been dumb to admit the bandage fail. Maybe he was mortally wounded by the animal and the bandage finished him off. Oh, the lengths to which people will go to skill up that bandage!

Nah, he didn't bandage himself, someone did it for him.

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Apr 23, 2015 16:43:24 GMT -5 @nym said:

Apr 23, 2015 16:42:53 GMT -5 reasonable said:

I had heard it was an animal, but probably because it would've been dumb to admit the bandage fail. Maybe he was mortally wounded by the animal and the bandage finished him off. Oh, the lengths to which people will go to skill up that bandage!

Nah, he didn't bandage himself, someone did it for him.

Yeah that's what I figured.

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The jade plot was a joke. I would go into detail but why bother? I know a lot about that nonsense. Players would get into fights with these max archery jade npcs and it would be impossible to catch them. One guy almost killed a couple of them and had a few NPCs loaded on him all at once. Typical staff response when they lose with animated NPCs is to utilize staff commands to cheat.

mesuinu staff puppet account Posts: 30	Byn Apr 23, 2015 19:13:22 GMT -5 Quote Select Post Deselect Post Link to Post Member Give Gift Back to Top Post by mesuinu on Apr 23, 2015 19:13:22 GMT -5 I do have the impression sometimes imms aren't quite sure what kind of challenge rating is appropriate for a group. There's not exactly an equation for it in Arm's platform, right?

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Apr 23, 2015 19:13:22 GMT -5 mesuinu said:

I do have the impression sometimes imms aren't quite sure what kind of challenge rating is appropriate for a group. There's not exactly an equation for it in Arm's platform, right?

It's actually a common myth that staff have any choice as to how NPC threats are handled.

There are only two modes. The first is 'Insultingly Trivial' and the second is 'That Scene in Deliverance With Ned Beatty If Burt Reynolds HADN'T Shown Up Near The End'

As to which mode is chosen for any given RPT, I wager they flip a coin.

I remember a few times taking weeks to organize events, and getting like 20-30 people involved, and one beastie showing up, or a single insolent gith. And I remember other events which were supposed to be cakewalks having like 40 kryl dropped on us.

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Apr 23, 2015 16:43:24 GMT -5 @nym said:

Apr 23, 2015 16:42:53 GMT -5 reasonable said:

I had heard it was an animal, but probably because it would've been dumb to admit the bandage fail. Maybe he was mortally wounded by the animal and the bandage finished him off. Oh, the lengths to which people will go to skill up that bandage!

Nah, he didn't bandage himself, someone did it for him.

yeah check this out

The corpulent, trinket-bearded man frantically tries to patch the rugged, war-torn man's wounds, teeth gritted.

97h 95v 124t fighting: the gigantic and obese figure in a tattered black, hooded militia dustcloak walking late at night>

The gigantic and obese figure in a tattered black, hooded militia dustcloak parries your attack.

97h 95v 124t fighting: the gigantic and obese figure in a tattered black, hooded militia dustcloak walking late at night>

Gazing around, the golden-eyed, dark-haired woman exclaims, in sirihish:

"It's all a trick...don't believe what ya see!"

97h 95v 124t fighting: the gigantic and obese figure in a tattered black, hooded militia dustcloak walking late at night>

The gigantic and obese figure in a tattered black, hooded militia dustcloak stomps down at you, barely missing but thumping the ground beside the rugged, war-torn man.

97h 95v 124t fighting: the gigantic and obese figure in a tattered black, hooded militia dustcloak walking late at night>

You feel your head reel and feel sick to your stomach as the infection inside of you grows.

*lol skellebained now watch this mess*

97h 95v 124t fighting: the short figure in a dark, hooded cloak walking late at night>

You land a solid chop to the gigantic and obese figure in a tattered black, hooded militia dustcloak's leg.

97h 95v 124t fighting: the pale-skinned, naked woman walking late at night>

A gigantic and obese faint shape stretches its hind legs, arching its back.

You deftly parry the gigantic and obese figure in a tattered black, hooded militia dustcloak's attack.

97h 95v 124t fighting: the tanned elf walking late at night>

The purple-haired gith sends you sprawling with a powerful bash.

85h 95v 111t sitting walking late at night>

A sandy-brown inix puffs through its nostrils and bobs its head.

85h 95v 111t sitting walking late at night>st

You deftly block the well-endowed, naked man's attack. *wtf?*

85h 95v 119t sitting walking late at night>

The pale-skinned, naked woman roars and lurches into you. *lolol*

85h 95v 119t sitting walking late at night>

You chop someone's body.

85h 95v 119t sitting walking late at night>

The buttery-skinned, elven male collapses atop the body of the rugged, war-torn man as he fucks up the bandage, blood spraying everywhere.

nice work @kronibas u shouldve flashed him so he couldve gone out with a buttery nipple lol

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Apr 23, 2015 16:04:27 GMT -5 malkeninthemiddle said:

Oh look, another "let's blame Staff" event that can be easily traced back to player fuckeries.

A byn rpt had a mekillot fight with a master npc archer shooting into it, 1 or more psion, a pit trap no one saw, and a mul npc with a branched weapon.

I disagree.

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Apr 23, 2015 19:18:32 GMT -5 sirra said:

Apr 23, 2015 19:13:22 GMT -5 mesuinu said:

I do have the impression sometimes imms aren't quite sure what kind of challenge rating is appropriate for a group. There's not exactly an equation for it in Arm's platform, right?

It's actually a common myth that staff have any choice as to how NPC threats are handled.

There are only two modes. The first is 'Insultingly Trivial' and the second is 'That Scene in Deliverance With Ned Beatty If Burt Reynolds HADN'T Shown Up Near The End'

As to which mode is chosen for any given RPT, I wager they flip a coin.

I remember a few times taking weeks to organize events, and getting like 20-30 people involved, and one beastie showing up, or a single insolent gith. And I remember other events which were supposed to be cakewalks having like 40 kryl dropped on us.

I can't speak for others experience, but in my own, this is certainly the case. At least in part, because there are so many npcs I've never fought, and so little combat I've seen in general, so it makes an appropriate comparison of skills a lot of guesswork, as to what would be what sort of encounter. And for myself, I prefer to give someone less of a challenge than send them to an inglorious death as the result of a rushed mess of combat spam.

YMMV.

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Apr 23, 2015 22:05:10 GMT -5 jkarr said:

Apr 23, 2015 16:43:24 GMT -5 @nym said:

Nah, he didn't bandage himself, someone did it for him.

yeah check this out

The corpulent, trinket-bearded man frantically tries to patch the rugged, war-torn man's wounds, teeth gritted.

97h 95v 124t fighting: the gigantic and obese figure in a tattered black, hooded militia dustcloak walking late at night>

The gigantic and obese figure in a tattered black, hooded militia dustcloak parries your attack.

97h 95v 124t fighting: the gigantic and obese figure in a tattered black, hooded militia dustcloak walking late at night>

Gazing around, the golden-eyed, dark-haired woman exclaims, in sirihish:

"It's all a trick...don't believe what ya see!"

97h 95v 124t fighting: the gigantic and obese figure in a tattered black, hooded militia dustcloak walking late at night>

The gigantic and obese figure in a tattered black, hooded militia dustcloak stomps down at you, barely missing but thumping the ground beside the rugged, war-torn man.

97h 95v 124t fighting: the gigantic and obese figure in a tattered black, hooded militia dustcloak walking late at night>

You feel your head reel and feel sick to your stomach as the infection inside of you grows.

*lol skellebained now watch this mess*

97h 95v 124t fighting: the short figure in a dark, hooded cloak walking late at night>

You land a solid chop to the gigantic and obese figure in a tattered black, hooded militia dustcloak's leg.

97h 95v 124t fighting: the pale-skinned, naked woman walking late at night>

A gigantic and obese faint shape stretches its hind legs, arching its back.

You deftly parry the gigantic and obese figure in a tattered black, hooded militia dustcloak's attack.

97h 95v 124t fighting: the tanned elf walking late at night>

The purple-haired gith sends you sprawling with a powerful bash.

85h 95v 111t sitting walking late at night>

A sandy-brown inix puffs through its nostrils and bobs its head.

85h 95v 111t sitting walking late at night>st

You deftly block the well-endowed, naked man's attack. *wtf?*

85h 95v 119t sitting walking late at night>

The pale-skinned, naked woman roars and lurches into you. *lolol*

85h 95v 119t sitting walking late at night>

You chop someone's body.

85h 95v 119t sitting walking late at night>

The buttery-skinned, elven male collapses atop the body of the rugged, war-torn man as he fucks up the bandage, blood spraying everywhere.

nice work @kronibas u shouldve flashed him so he couldve gone out with a buttery nipple lol

When Harar, who had close to max bandaging, tried to revive Sefaj, it said he was too far gone. Actually, one of the most intense moments of my Arm thing, at the apex of a pyramid of slaughter. It was actually rather glorious, at our expense. And the BYN's then current incarnation withered away soon afterward, so, mission accomplished on that whole crowd control thing.

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There is one important question: why didn't the hardass shadow artists, who had so much OOC support, find themselves in the situation that the Byn did before the massacre RPT?

Well, it's easy... They never became successful enough to even warrant that kind of response. And really, that should tell you something about the degree of success the current incarnation of admins have when it comes to imp'ing the equivalent of an entire clan: shadow artists, Brand New Templars, with a closure of Tuluk following in swift pursuit.

So, say what you will, but the facts stand for themselves.

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Meanwhile, pre-fab staff-borne clans aside, when a group of players - as recently as last spring - try to form a group, they are cut down at multiple steps of the way. This happens as the clan startups who have a red carpet to success,

well, they fizzle and die into nothingness on that red, staff supported carpet... As player driven groups receive very murderous attention with the swiftness. I mean, it is clear what is going on or what has went on... You can't read what I have written and claim that you are still ignorant of some facts.

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