delerak
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Apr 22, 2015 20:47:02 GMT -5
Post by delerak on Apr 22, 2015 20:47:02 GMT -5
Byn in '99 was like the Chiago Bulls in 91-93. Dream team man. Those guys were all around for 2-3+ years.
You had Lt. Kroz, Sgt Berlian, Sgt Iltrin, Sgt Gowynn, Sgt Mazzel.
Not all of them had units even though, the Byn was different back then. You could make Sgt and not be assigned a unit, made too much sense.
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delerak
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Byn
Apr 22, 2015 20:47:56 GMT -5
Post by delerak on Apr 22, 2015 20:47:56 GMT -5
Mazzel was the well-muscled man Berlian was the broad-shouldered man Kroz was the rangy, ashen-skinned man Gowynn was the tall, white-haired elf Iltrin was the hunched, bald man that spoke with the best lisp ever.
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Byn
Apr 22, 2015 23:38:12 GMT -5
Post by Deleted on Apr 22, 2015 23:38:12 GMT -5
The story of Gowynn "dying" in the arena and then resurfacing some time later in Kurac is really epic. If it's not listed somewhere as a story, it should be... That is the sort of staff facilitation that makes the game great.
There are some cool stories about Kroz, too, like how he had the symbiotic halfling plant attach to his arm and begin to take him over (it doubled as a badass "scythe" weapon) or how he was coded to have fleas. Heh heh. He also traded to Iltrin to an actual ghaati for some meat, I think it was.
I got my first karma during the group, back when there weren't tiers for karma: it was just dispersed by what the IMM thought the player would be good at. I got "half-giant" as my first karma from all of that. It was a good time to start playing Armageddon.
iltrin and my first Bynner were runners together. I was "the huge, muscular man"... Heh heh.
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Byn
Apr 23, 2015 0:18:00 GMT -5
Post by Deleted on Apr 23, 2015 0:18:00 GMT -5
If Heejo is the raven haired dude I am thinking of, then he was a runner when the omfg slaughter RPT happened... And he was the only one who stuck with the clan, besides maybe Albie and Bron, after everyone else was murdered, quit, died, or stored in the aftermath of the slaughter RPT. Was this omfg slaughter RPT you keep freaking out about explained somewhere? More than anything, I'd like names of the bynners involved so I can picture where this is on the timeline and the state of the Byn at the time. Basically, the Byn was doing really well. There was a faction within that Byn group who would have liked to have branched out into another group, and there were two main ways that this was thwarted: 1. They would not allow us to get a warehouse. 2. They stalled on a cloak for what would have been the group before finally answering my mastercraft submission witng a very generic looking cloak whose recipe did not even function correctly. It was frustrating. Meanwhile, as they are stalling/outright blocking attempts to splinter off, they are simultaneously orchestrating a very bloody RPT of serious death. They planned to kill PCs; it was a "kill off" RPT to reduce the size of the Byn, which was fucked up because, at the same time, Bynners were trying to break off and do their own thing. The staff was completely aware of this and just decided that killing off a bunch of Bynners would be better than letting them start a new group. Within short order of the kill off plot and blocking of a splinter group, I quit playing, Koman quit the Byn, Armali quit the Byn, and basically everyone else either stored or left. It was exceptionally lame and in large part due to staff manipulating events for the result they wanted. Just really disappointing. It really was. I don't think the way all of that went down was really cool at all. I would like to think that I'm not alone in that, too.
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mesuinu
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Byn
Apr 23, 2015 2:58:08 GMT -5
Post by mesuinu on Apr 23, 2015 2:58:08 GMT -5
I'm curious, who were the staff handling the Byn/independent teams at the time?
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Apr 23, 2015 3:14:03 GMT -5
Post by Deleted on Apr 23, 2015 3:14:03 GMT -5
I'm not sure, but someone - and I'm not naming any names here - who had just spent half a decade running Tuluk into the ground had just been put in charge of all of Allanak not too long before those shenanigans started.
Around this same time, also in Nak, was when RogueRogueRanger was having his templarate play tampered with heavy handedly, too, so I mean... Here you have two veterans players saying that their play was manipulated in heavy handed ways in the same place, at roughly the same time, right around the time after [redacted staff member name] assumed control of Nak. I mean, it's not like we are making this shit up.
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Byn
Apr 23, 2015 6:29:11 GMT -5
Post by Deleted on Apr 23, 2015 6:29:11 GMT -5
Actually Koman didn't quit the Byn for -many- -many- months after. I know Armali quit a few months after one of mine had and joined Kurac. But Koman ended up staying until Heejo quit. They both ended up going off into the sunset together too start their own thing.
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Apr 23, 2015 8:24:27 GMT -5
Post by Deleted on Apr 23, 2015 8:24:27 GMT -5
Actually Koman didn't quit the Byn for -many- -many- months after. I know Armali quit a few months after one of mine had and joined Kurac. But Koman ended up staying until Heejo quit. They both ended up going off into the sunset together too start their own thing. Many many months? No, I quit shortly after the murder RPT, left for a bit, and came back within a month or two, only to find that Koman had just left after being browbeat by the staff. Quite literally, he complained ICly about the higher ups in the Byn had been tampering with hiring practices/exerting too much control over his unit. By the time Harar came back from that absence, no one was in the Byn who had been in the Byn, except the marred raven haired guy. Everyone else had stored, died, or quit. We're not talking 6 months... It was like a month or two. Pretty sure the murder plot happened in February, and then I came back in March or April and the Byn as I had known it was absolutely toast. Edit: I am not playing [staff member name redacted] and going to fact check all the dates from my previous GDB posts, but that time line is close. If Koman and Heejo left the Byn together, then the former may have come back or something... I don't know and don't really wish to speculate on what has happened in the game in the past RL year.
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grumble
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Byn
Apr 23, 2015 11:18:27 GMT -5
Post by grumble on Apr 23, 2015 11:18:27 GMT -5
heho didnt kwit teh byn they sold hem 2 borsale.
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Byn
Apr 23, 2015 15:41:29 GMT -5
Post by reasonable on Apr 23, 2015 15:41:29 GMT -5
Actually Koman didn't quit the Byn for -many- -many- months after. I know Armali quit a few months after one of mine had and joined Kurac. But Koman ended up staying until Heejo quit. They both ended up going off into the sunset together too start their own thing. Many many months? No, I quit shortly after the murder RPT, left for a bit, and came back within a month or two, only to find that Koman had just left after being browbeat by the staff. Quite literally, he complained ICly about the higher ups in the Byn had been tampering with hiring practices/exerting too much control over his unit. By the time Harar came back from that absence, no one was in the Byn who had been in the Byn, except the marred raven haired guy. Everyone else had stored, died, or quit. We're not talking 6 months... It was like a month or two. Pretty sure the murder plot happened in February, and then I came back in March or April and the Byn as I had known it was absolutely toast. Edit: I am not playing [staff member name redacted] and going to fact check all the dates from my previous GDB posts, but that time line is close. If Koman and Heejo left the Byn together, then the former may have come back or something... I don't know and don't really wish to speculate on what has happened in the game in the past RL year. As someone who played in the Byn around this time... Koman had like 20 people in his unit and was taking contracts that the Byn don't take, according to the Byn docs. Grebbing missions and other stupid shit. So if a lot of PCs died, that's because Koman had a shitload of PCs in the first place. How is the world supposed to react to a small army marching in dangerous territory? NPCs get loaded by the staff to attack. Maybe if Koman went with quality instead of quantity, no one would have died. Then he left and made a grebbing group, doing what he always wanted to do with the Byn. And now the Byn is doing proper Byn contracts instead of grebbing missions, and has good leaders who hire everyone that has their three small, unlike Koman who would reject elves purely because he wanted to (because they have to walk on grebbing missions), not because staff told him to.
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Apr 23, 2015 15:54:15 GMT -5
Post by Deleted on Apr 23, 2015 15:54:15 GMT -5
Actually it was something Koman and Heejo supposedly agreed on. That they were refusing too hire elven bynners. Also it was the fact that Koman and Armali were trying too turn the Byn into a mini merchant house. And Kronibas you knew my old character. I remember Armali taking contracts that weren't really Byn like either. So it's not like Koman was the only one doing it.
P.S: Yes i'm going to rip Armali a new one because people keep defending her even though she made a shit ton of mistakes just like everyone else. Sorry Armali fan boys.
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malkeninthemiddle
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Apr 23, 2015 16:04:27 GMT -5
Post by malkeninthemiddle on Apr 23, 2015 16:04:27 GMT -5
Oh look, another "let's blame Staff" event that can be easily traced back to player fuckeries.
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Apr 23, 2015 16:08:27 GMT -5
Post by Deleted on Apr 23, 2015 16:08:27 GMT -5
No, what he wanted to do in the Byn, was make a scouting group to supplement Sefaj, and Harar worked on a mastercraft item to this end, only for the staff to stall on it before finally accepting the request. The mastercraft item given was a really generic looking cloak, and the recipe for it wasn't even functional.
You must not have been playing enough during that time to have gotten a good picture of the murder plot. When that happened, Sefaj was still alive and very much running the show. Koman and his group of scouts... not grebbers... remained mounted outside the camp to be on the lookout for anyone coming or leaving; he was very much on the periphery of that RPT, especially since the mind benders codedly prevented the group in the pit from contacting the group outside.
At any rate, there are maybe things that players could have done in that RPT which would have resulted in a different outcome, but like wrote about in decent detail already, it was ultimately a slaughter fest with the cards stacked against the players. And yes, I do believe this happened because the Byn was large and popular at the time while other projects, like certain northern clans that were being revamped - like shadow artists, the entire Tuluki templarate - were starved for players. Maybe I'm wrong, but that's what it seemed like to me.
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Apr 23, 2015 16:22:20 GMT -5
Post by Deleted on Apr 23, 2015 16:22:20 GMT -5
I remember what Koman wanted, he wanted his little scouting group which was -really- nice. I liked the idea of the Byn having a small scouting group they could send ahead or something if there was trouble. It was a smart thing.
However it turned from that too them starting too take contracts on grebbing and such after Sefaj had died.
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Byn
Apr 23, 2015 16:32:18 GMT -5
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Post by reasonable on Apr 23, 2015 16:32:18 GMT -5
No, what he wanted to do in the Byn, was make a scouting group to supplement Sefaj, and Harar worked on a mastercraft item to this end, only for the staff to stall on it before finally accepting the request. The mastercraft item given was a really generic looking cloak, and the recipe for it wasn't even functional. You must not have been playing enough during that time to have gotten a good picture of the murder plot. When that happened, Sefaj was still alive and very much running the show. Koman and his group of scouts... not grebbers... remained mounted outside the camp to be on the lookout for anyone coming or leaving; he was very much on the periphery of that RPT, especially since the mind benders codedly prevented the group in the pit from contacting the group outside. At any rate, there are maybe things that players could have done in that RPT which would have resulted in a different outcome, but like wrote about in decent detail already, it was ultimately a slaughter fest with the cards stacked against the players. And yes, I do believe this happened because the Byn was large and popular at the time while other projects, like certain northern clans that were being revamped - like shadow artists, the entire Tuluki templarate - were starved for players. Maybe I'm wrong, but that's what it seemed like to me. You keep calling it the murder plot. Sefaj got killed by an animal. A lot of Bynners get killed by animals, especially big dangerous animals. It's almost a running joke that they either get killed by mekillots, mantises or gravity. I don't know about your mastercraft so I won't say anything about it, but a lot can happen in a month. Maybe, just maybe, Koman didn't need new cloaks to help Sefaj anymore.
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