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Post by Deleted on Sept 22, 2014 20:10:29 GMT -5
I don't like to send in reports. I'm sure that staff appreciate player's effort's to keep them in the loop but I wonder to what degree staff read them because reading and responding to requests can't be fun either, it's work for me to write them and work for staff to read them. Sure there are times when communication with staff is meaningful and useful but in the case of reports I think these create more work than they are worth, at least in the number that they deal with.
I'd rather staff were creating game content or animating something, doing anything to make the world more fun and interesting than pushing virtual paperwork around. And I understand that the virtual paperwork is a necessity but probably not to the degree that gets done. I looked at the weekly report and they have about 100 to 150 requests that they resolve each week, about half of these are clan related character reports.
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Post by jcarter on Sept 22, 2014 20:17:19 GMT -5
and the GM gets really upset and makes passive-aggressive comments for days when you insinuate that it'd be cool if he didn't deny and remove classes from the game because they were "too much work"
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Post by Deleted on Sept 22, 2014 21:26:11 GMT -5
I don't like to send in reports. I'm sure that staff appreciate player's effort's to keep them in the loop but I wonder to ehat degree staff read them because reading and responding to requests can't be fun either, it's work for me to write them and work for staff to read them. Sure there are times when communication with staff is meaningful and useful but in the case of reports I think these create more work than they are worth, at least in the number that they deal with. I'd rather staff were creating game content or animating something, doing anything to make the world more fun and interesting than pushing virtual paperwork around. And I understand that the virtual paperwork is a necessity but probably not to the degree that gets done. I looked at yhe weekly report and they have about 100 to 150 requests that they resolve each week, about half of these are clan related character reports. Reports are very hard to pin down that way. It's good to know what is going on in the case that you are working toward something. And so long as the reports are primarily informative, it's really just a question of being able to look back over a record of the jist of what's been going on. If you have questions/concerns/etc, that can take longer. The main reason they take the length of time to resolve that they do is because much of the time, people seem to get upset if you note stuff on the IDB and resolve a request without them having a chance to note/comment on the request if someone in one of your clans is doing something involving a different clan. Which is frustrating as hell, tbh. But that just goes back to the bottleneck of stuff created by the request tool and self imposed policies that have evolved over time, as it did not used to be that way, and grew to be more and more the case as my time there went on. |
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Post by Deleted on Sept 25, 2014 6:13:58 GMT -5
The game doesn't even need the staff to actively create and run plots. It needs them to maintain the things that generate plot material. They need to ensure that the game contains the things that create friction between groups of people, or a demand for something that a group of people possesses, or something of the kind. People will make their own plots and keep the game active if they're given something to work with, but the game simply hasn't got that anymore.
It's not up to the players to create something from nothing, it's up to them to make something out of what the game provides. It's staff's responsibility to ensure that the game itself provides a foundation that inspires noteworthy and unique roleplay, but over the course of Nyr's tenure, staff has been working hard to remove anything that does this. All evidence suggests that they don't like the increased workload that comes with unusual and engaging roleplay, so they try to prevent it.
Also, jkarr is probably the least intelligent and reasonable person on this forum.
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Post by jkarr on Sept 25, 2014 13:35:16 GMT -5
@steinal theres more buttcream down aisle 7 if ur out of stock already
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Post by Kronibas 2.0 on Sept 25, 2014 14:04:40 GMT -5
Dood aisle 7 good1 matey
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Post by jcarter on Sept 25, 2014 15:26:05 GMT -5
Anyone who disagrees with me is clearly dumb wrong and butthurt. No other possibilities exist
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Post by jkarr on Sept 25, 2014 16:07:24 GMT -5
yup esp when they cant resist throwing needless lastline potshots at someone three pages away from their last comment in the thread lol cuz pointing out the butthurt means the poster must think the one they disagree with is always dumb and wrong too so lets not forget that. sandlurd said so  |
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Post by Deleted on Sept 25, 2014 16:36:24 GMT -5
In my opinion. In great majority, the reports are read primarily by STs anyway. Dont worry about ST's time, they usually love to read reports. Most of your character reports have probably been read within hours of you sending them in. Just left unresolved so other imms can read and comment as well.
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Post by lyse on Sept 25, 2014 18:00:24 GMT -5
yup esp when they cant resist throwing needless lastline potshots at someone three pages away from their last comment in the thread lol cuz pointing out the butthurt means they must also be always dumb and wrong too so we cant forget that. sandlurd said so You crack me up Nyr. |
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Post by jkarr on Sept 25, 2014 18:11:47 GMT -5
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Post by Deleted on Sept 25, 2014 20:35:57 GMT -5
My money is on gdb lizzie for Jkarr. |
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Post by lulz on Sept 25, 2014 21:13:26 GMT -5
I'm glad I stay away from certain threads.
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Post by legendary on Oct 1, 2014 17:10:46 GMT -5
In recent times, I've avoided starting more elaborate plots.
It's come to the point where you're faced with staff interference no matter how you do things. If you keep it exclusive to players and request no assistance or involvement from the staff, you're slammed for not sending in reports or getting them involved. If you send in reports and have the gall to suggest some manner of staff involvement, you're slammed for it, if not blatantly insulted.
When I play, I do my own thing and try to enjoy my small interacting with others, since it's really all that's left.
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