jesantu
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Post by jesantu on Apr 24, 2016 13:53:25 GMT -5
they closed tuluk because gdb is better tuluk than tuluk Nail on the head, my friend. And it's just so weird. It's like everyone collectively admits what's wrong with the game but somehow (even united) no one can do anything about it. I repeat, even some of the players who you would never think could side with the majority opinion on these boards, when you chat privately with them they'll say yeah the game really sucks right now and don't hold your breath waiting for x or y to happen cuz it's not the same Arma it used to be.
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Post by BitterFlashback on Apr 24, 2016 18:46:08 GMT -5
It's funny seeing this board finally be openly and directly mentioned on the gdb now. It was a gradual development. There was a point where it felt like even mentioning this place existed would get censored. Then people started dropping hints here and there. And now it's pretty directly discussed. You almost have to applaud the personal growth that that required. I attribute it less to personal growth and more to the degradation of denial. I think the GDBers afraid to speak their minds fall into three somewhat-overlapping circles: 1. Afraid of staff punishment 2. Afraid of GDB harassment 3. Afraid the staff will just shut the game down out of spite/despair As the game collapses more and more, those three fears will continue to diminish.
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jesantu
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Post by jesantu on Apr 25, 2016 0:54:08 GMT -5
I love how nergal talks at length about being the better person but by the end of his post proves himself to be the furthest thing from the better person.
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jesantu
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Post by jesantu on Apr 25, 2016 0:57:06 GMT -5
Calling his own players our for daring to make accounts here, and then locking the thread so he has the final say....in classic desertman style.
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punished ppurg
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Post by punished ppurg on Apr 25, 2016 8:37:12 GMT -5
Nergal has taken to the Minecraft idealisim of kiddie administration: there's no respect or even association in his mind that the others he's punishing have contributed far more to the game than he ever will.
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Post by jcarter on Apr 25, 2016 10:32:10 GMT -5
Calling his own players our for daring to make accounts here, and then locking the thread so he has the final say....in classic desertman style. i thought he had some good points. i get why he's pissed off. this site should have zero effect on any Armer's game experience. you don't need to read it, you don't need to participate in it. it has no impact whatsoever. there's no secret groups forming here to attack players or w/e. if you don't like the content, you're free not to read it or take part in the bullshit. instead of doing that though, players are talking about how much they totes don't read the site or they only looked at it once. we know that's bullshit, and nergal knows that's bullshit. the proof is that on the day the leaks got released more people than ever were logged in on the boards for exactly the reason nergal said -- to download the attachment. and you've got malken who, despite trying to organize an effort to shut down the forums, admits he comes here and uses the info that's present. then you have internet lawyers citing wikipedia caselaw arguing about how posting someone's first name w/o their permission in such a small community totally isn't ~technically~ doxxing and throwing the name back out there despite him editting it out. or posters coming here to stir up shit. it shoots the narrative in the foot that the Arm community is a helpful and welcoming place when posters go and stir shit up on the other boards because they can't just ignore something that has no bearing on their life or hobby. meanwhile, Arm is lower than ever on the topmudsites ranking because players would rather bitch about how much they hate another website that they totes don't read than actually help out the MUD they take up internet arms for and vote. so i get where he's coming from and i respect it. i'd be just as annoyed too if i was in his position.
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grumble
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Post by grumble on Apr 25, 2016 10:55:04 GMT -5
Fuck, Nergal, I'm still pissy at you but that's a hell of a thing to say. Kudos.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 25, 2016 12:37:37 GMT -5
Two things I dislike about the GDB are:
1 - Posters need to be right, or at least for everyone else to be wrong. 2 - Posters need to be validated, often in a zealous support for the game in an attempt to ingratiate themselves to the staff.
I'm not sure I can blame posters for #2. For any player who hopes to be on staff one day, staff kind of needs to like you to get the nod.
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jesantu
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Post by jesantu on Apr 25, 2016 13:04:51 GMT -5
I hear where you're coming from jcarter and where you say nergal may be coming from. And I respect your willingness to side with an imms point, when it's legitimately valid.
It could be my jadedness building up certain expectations of staff on my end but my take on nergals post was more of his "disappointment" that players would dare to download that information, then says they should go vote instead. For years staff have put so much emphasis on voting and I just don't think that really has much of an impact. I also rarely think blocking threads serves any purpose at all.
If nergals point was more as you're saying it, then good on him. I just find it unlikely he matured overnight....This is the guy who banned jeshin and anyone who knows him over mere peanuts, after all.
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Post by jcarter on Apr 25, 2016 13:50:14 GMT -5
he seems exasperated.
the thread was just a bunch of players boasting about how they didn't look at this site and pretending to be concerned about arm while making the community look like shit. he knows it's bullshit. players clearly do look at this site, and if they were so concerned about arm they could spend time trying to improve it rather than shit up other communities.
i'd be annoyed too if i was him and getting fed that bullshit from players. i'm not making a comment on what's right or if he deserves it or w/e, or how much i buy into the attitude of Arm being the 'bigger person' line considering all the antics staff have pulled, but i get the place he's coming from in regards to being annoyed by those posters.
the end of the post, about players in the thread being hypocrites, was about as close as we'll ever see to a staffer flat out telling the players to shut the fuck up, stop being shitheads, and just play the game.
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jkarr
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Post by jkarr on Apr 25, 2016 13:52:29 GMT -5
i'd be annoyed too if i was him and getting fed that bullshit from players. mushroom treatment only works when that fun guy is in the dark
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grumble
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Post by grumble on Jun 3, 2016 19:28:26 GMT -5
Last few times I bothered to check the GDB, haven't seen much new. I guess there was an APM at Shaleah's house, I dunno, don't care. Never been to one, don't want to be anywhere near the majority of them.
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Post by renegade on Jun 23, 2016 15:07:24 GMT -5
I hate this thread and everything it stands for. It's so bass-ackwards to what I think is good game design I would think it was a troll had it come from anyone other than Lizzie.
I can honestly say that I think posts like this and the people who express these opinions are the worst thing about the Armageddon community. You're the reason why the game has been so slow to change and adapt, and why the staff tend to walk on eggshells when it comes to adding new things. You crush excitement. You scoff at progress. The less we cater to your, frankly ignorant (lack of)ideas, the better. I would rather have the heaping shit-pile of vastly negative and ridiculous posts on the Jcarter forum over whatever version of the GDB and game Lizzie and a few others here would have.
from roguegunslinger in the "So many ideas..." thread
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Post by Prime Minister Sinister on Jun 23, 2016 15:32:05 GMT -5
i love it when people get tired of lizzies shit
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punished ppurg
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Post by punished ppurg on Jun 23, 2016 16:52:22 GMT -5
Prepare to be banned or moderated, RGS!
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