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Post by Deleted on Sept 12, 2014 17:55:14 GMT -5
I don't know...something other than THE VAGUEST RESPONSE THAT HE COULD POSSIBLY GIVE.
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Post by BitterFlashback on Sept 12, 2014 18:17:23 GMT -5
in what way does that answer the question of "what is the current status of the world as far as population base" in the context of PCs and for Allanak vs Tuluk? Nyr says the following: 1)he looked at it recently 2)some adjustments can be made to clans 3)look for announcements in the future that's not an answer. He is, however, tacitly admitting that one set of clans is in need of players compared to another. If that's not what the person was looking for, why else would they want to see the numbers? "If they didn't get the answer they asked for, why wouldn't the answer be what they asked for?" because duh, bro.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 12, 2014 18:19:32 GMT -5
I thought the question was pretty vague. The current status? You mean how many are in northern vs. southern clans? How many PCs total live in each city? How many PCs spend most of their time in any given city? How many are sponsored roles? "Status" can mean any of those things. The person asking really did seem like he was trying to be vague in the question. It looked like Nyr answered what he /thought/ the player was trying to get at. Maybe Nyr wasn't unsure of what the OP was asking. Maybe Nyr was absolutely sure that the OP meant what Nyr addressed. If that's the case, he wouldn't have had to ask for clarification. He was obviously wrong in his assumption. I didn't think it meant "how many PCs play in the north vs. how many in the south?" either. And now that I see it does mean that, I also wonder why the person would care what the numbers are, unless he's leading into another question like "what do you plan on doing about the difference?" If that's the case, Nyr answered the actual question rather than the one that was asked, which was just a leading question.
edited to add a few more examples of how status could be interpreted: "how many players of northerners have stored in the past month vs. how many players of southerners have stored" and "how many are creating Tuluk PCs who leave Tuluk right away vs. how many do the same thing in Allanak" it really is a vague question and can be interpreted a number of ways.
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Post by BitterFlashback on Sept 12, 2014 18:25:36 GMT -5
I thought the question was pretty vague. The current status? You mean how many are in northern vs. southern clans? How many PCs total live in each city? How many PCs spend most of their time in any given city? How many are sponsored roles? "Status" can mean any of those things. it means a lot fewer things when the question you're mischaracterizing is still on the same page as your blatant stonewalling. btw, good to see Lizzie tagged you in. I was wondering when youd switch.
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Post by Lizzie on Sept 12, 2014 18:30:50 GMT -5
I thought the question was pretty vague. The current status? You mean how many are in northern vs. southern clans? How many PCs total live in each city? How many PCs spend most of their time in any given city? How many are sponsored roles? "Status" can mean any of those things. it means a lot fewer things when the question you're mischaracterizing is still on the same page as your blatant stonewalling. btw, good to see Lizzie tagged you in. I was wondering when youd switch. The fact that you seem to think we even know each other is really just absolutely hilarious. Serious question here, though: Are you legitimately autistic?
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Post by jcarter on Sept 12, 2014 18:32:37 GMT -5
I thought the question was pretty vague. The current status? You mean how many are in northern vs. southern clans? How many PCs total live in each city? How many PCs spend most of their time in any given city? How many are sponsored roles? "Status" can mean any of those things. The person asking really did seem like he was trying to be vague in the question. these are literally things that no one is complaining about. like you would totally have a point here if we were laughing because nyr answered with how many players are in Allanak right at this moment but we wanted to know how many sponsored roles are there but that could not be any farther from what is going on.
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Post by jcarter on Sept 12, 2014 18:35:00 GMT -5
He is, however, tacitly admitting that one set of clans is in need of players compared to another. If that's not what the person was looking for, why else would they want to see the numbers? how in any way are you interpreting the statement by silvermoontiger as asking whether or not an undefined group of clans is in need of an unspecified quantity of players in comparison to another undefined grouping of clans
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Post by BitterFlashback on Sept 12, 2014 18:37:31 GMT -5
it means a lot fewer things when the question you're mischaracterizing is still on the same page as your blatant stonewalling. btw, good to see Lizzie tagged you in. I was wondering when youd switch. The fact that you seem to think we even know each other is really just absolutely hilarious. Serious question here, though: Are you legitimately autistic? Oh shit... there's a new script playing on Sock Puppet Theater. Thank goodness. i was getting tired of seeing the same thing in "every" thread. Now enough of the blatant, ineffective trolling distraction. Back on topic: SILVERMOONTIGER: Hi. My question would be directed more on an idea of what is the current status of the world as far as population base, as far as size-wise between the two cities Allanak and Tuluk primarily but as well as the rest of the world, as far as population for PC characters right now?
NYR: Yeah, that’s something I looked at fairly recently, even this week. There are some areas we can make some adjustments with clans, and we’re looking to implement that in the future. You may see stuff announced, it may just be stuff that just changes. We’ll go from there at that point. I hope that answers your question.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 12, 2014 18:43:33 GMT -5
It's still vague bitterflash. Sizewise, does he want to know how many players create Tuluk citizens? Or is he wanting to know how many players are actively playing Tuluk-based characters, even the ones that live there but aren't citizens? There's some red stormers who play in Allanak, do they count in the Allanak count? Don't forget the Bynners who come and go. And the Kadians who are from Allanak but switch to Tuluk when they're assigned. What does silvermoontiger want to know? What about all the people who roll up in LUir's and are rarely there? What about the people who roll up in Tuluk and then leave and rarely ever go back? Do they count in the Tuluk count?
Or was he asking "if you were to log in right this minute and take a count of people on the WHO list who are logged in, and in Tuluk right this moment, how many would that be?"
His question was vague. The answer was equally vague. I'm not seeing a problem.
Also I'm not Lizzie's alt or puppet or whatever the fuck you want to call it. I don't know who he is, wasn't he Nyr when he first showed up here and then he changed his name to Lizzie?
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Post by BitterFlashback on Sept 12, 2014 18:46:22 GMT -5
SILVERMOONTIGER: Hi. My question would be directed more on an idea of what is the current status of the world as far as population base, as far as size-wise between the two cities Allanak and Tuluk primarily but as well as the rest of the world, as far as population for PC characters right now?
NYR: Yeah, that’s something I looked at fairly recently, even this week. There are some areas we can make some adjustments with clans, and we’re looking to implement that in the future. You may see stuff announced, it may just be stuff that just changes. We’ll go from there at that point. I hope that answers your question. His question was vague. The answer was equally vague. I'm not seeing a problem. His question was about population in Allanak and tuluk. the answer was about implementing "adjustments to clans". no one needs you to admit you're stonewalling.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 12, 2014 18:57:10 GMT -5
Right. Which population is he asking about? The number of players who are logged in right now, whose characters happen to be within the walls of one or the other city? Or, the number of characters rolled up in each city, no matter where those characters happen to be at the moment? And why does he want to know this? Is he concerned about how to make the sizes more balanced? If so, then yes adjustment to clans is something to consider because it'd mean people are preferring one city's clans over another. Is it even a concern at all, or was he just curious and doesn't give a shit how many are in one city or another? Like I said, it seemed like he was being intentionally vague. We won't know for sure what he'd say if Nyr answered the question with actual numbers. He might've even asked more questions to get more specific. What if Nyr had said "there's 52 in Tuluk and 64 in Allanak."
What does that mean, exactly? Does that 52 include people who've rolled up Tulukis in the past month but never logged in again? Does it include people whose players are away for a few weeks? You would've been whining about his being vague in his answer even if he gave exact numbers. Or if he gave exact numbers and explained them. You'd be pissed at that too because slymoontiger didn't ask for specifics so Nyr's just showing off. What did slymoontiger want to know, that inspired him to ask for "sizewise" status? There's no stonewalling here. Just vague questions, vague answers, people pointing out that they are both vague, and you being butthurt about it.
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Post by jcarter on Sept 12, 2014 19:08:04 GMT -5
Right. Which population is he asking about? The number of players who are logged in right now, whose characters happen to be within the walls of one or the other city? Or, the number of characters rolled up in each city, no matter where those characters happen to be at the moment? And why does he want to know this? Is he concerned about how to make the sizes more balanced? If so, then yes adjustment to clans is something to consider because it'd mean people are preferring one city's clans over another. Is it even a concern at all, or was he just curious and doesn't give a shit how many are in one city or another? Like I said, it seemed like he was being intentionally vague. We won't know for sure what he'd say if Nyr answered the question with actual numbers. He might've even asked more questions to get more specific. What if Nyr had said "there's 52 in Tuluk and 64 in Allanak." What does that mean, exactly? Does that 52 include people who've rolled up Tulukis in the past month but never logged in again? Does it include people whose players are away for a few weeks? You would've been whining about his being vague in his answer even if he gave exact numbers. Or if he gave exact numbers and explained them. You'd be pissed at that too because slymoontiger didn't ask for specifics so Nyr's just showing off. What did slymoontiger want to know, that inspired him to ask for "sizewise" status? There's no stonewalling here. Just vague questions, vague answers, people pointing out that they are both vague, and you being butthurt about it. these are literally things that no one is complaining about. like you would totally have a point here if we were laughing because nyr answered with how many players are in Allanak right at this moment but we wanted to know how many sponsored roles are there but that could not be any farther from what is going on.
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Post by Lizzie on Sept 12, 2014 19:09:26 GMT -5
The fact that you seem to think we even know each other is really just absolutely hilarious. Serious question here, though: Are you legitimately autistic? Oh shit... there's a new script playing on Sock Puppet Theater. Thank goodness. i was getting tired of seeing the same thing in "every" thread. Now enough of the blatant, ineffective trolling distraction. Back on topic:
I'm going to take this as a yes.
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Post by lyse on Sept 12, 2014 19:11:44 GMT -5
I don't think the question was vague. It was kind of irrelevant because it was rhetorical. We know where most people play. I'm not sure what question he was answering there though.
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Post by jkarr on Sept 12, 2014 19:13:15 GMT -5
lmao dude even kerri strug didnt have to do that many fucking needless backflips to prove a point
dude completely avoided answering the question or even addressing a lack of clarity (which is all the weak attempt at an argument u could even surmise) in slvrmoon's answer. now ur just throwing shit up to see who fetches
nice try lol now go back under the bridge and get some more training
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