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Post by Deleted on Aug 26, 2014 10:39:26 GMT -5
I didn't get that fron the video. it says it right in the description You're right, I see it now. After re-watching it, I realize now that the guy in the video does say that the act of "remixing" is a folk art near the beginning. While I'm not sure if I agree with the video as a whole, I think it brings up are some interesting concepts worth consideration when it comes to the concept of intellectual property rights and the nature and origins of ideas in general.
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Post by mood on Aug 26, 2014 13:59:44 GMT -5
intellectual property is a farcical notion imo
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Post by BitterFlashback on Aug 26, 2014 14:28:14 GMT -5
Guess you guys didn't watch the whole video and that's fine. I actually did watch the whole video. I created the post about halfway into the video; it was equivocating bullshit from the very beginning. I revised my post and added a summary after i finished the video because it turned out to be worse than id expectd. While I'm not sure if I agree with the video as a whole, I think it brings up are some interesting concepts worth consideration when it comes to the concept of intellectual property rights and the nature and origins of ideas in general. On this site youll see a lot of people who lie poorly. That video was average quality lying. it presents facts mixed with casual dishonesty in the hopes of avoiding red flags. The authr of the video did it too early and too often, which is why i didnt have to finish the video before I posted calling it bullshit. in fact, i had to edit my post because i didnt realize how much bullshit it was going to throw out there. Equivocating scientific progress with Hollywoods tendency to release the same kinds of movies at the same time to ridea trend is ridiculous. Suggesting (but not saying) that IP laws shouldnt exist because theyre being abused due to the recent stupidty of the patent office is beyond absurd. And the sad thing is if you pay attention to the video youll notice the first 3/4 of it is designed to soften your mind so you dont question the last 4th's conclusion. yeah, it brought up interesting facts. lying is more effective if you mix in some truth. Software patents are conceptually insane and shouldn't exist for the same reasons you cant patent math. agreed. But if that guy had done any real research hed have discovered the patent office didnt (and possibly still doesnt) hire people with comp sci as their background, so the patents are reviewed by physicists and chemsists who know fuckall about software. And in spite of partially agreeing with parts of the video, the bulk of its message was inherently dishonest and is disagree with its implication IP laws should be eliminated. rather than just having the patent office de-privatized and firing most of the idiots whove been approving this shit. Ditto for the copyright office, which this videos author my be amazed to learn do more than copyright 2 second music clips.
EDIT: just to be clear, my contempt for the video doesnt extend to you. the video annoyed the shit out of me; Im not trying to imply anything about you by hating on it. Though Im not exactly in love with being accused of not finishing something just because i drew a different conclusion about it
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Post by lulz on Aug 26, 2014 20:27:04 GMT -5
Well shit, I was late to the party on that one. NM, didn't see the next page.
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Post by Kronibas 2.0 on Sept 12, 2014 15:48:32 GMT -5
that shit was so blatant. the guy asked for specific numbersand thenwish the dude had just said no it doesnt, i asked for numbers u evasive little bitch I mean, it's not even an issue of numbers. Nyr completely evaded the question and gave a bullshit answer. Lel
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Post by jkarr on Sept 12, 2014 15:54:34 GMT -5
yeah and the sad part is he admitted they looked at the number comparisons fairly recently and he still didnt share them, he failed fucking hard here
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Post by Lizzie on Sept 12, 2014 16:06:18 GMT -5
that shit was so blatant. the guy asked for specific numbersand thenwish the dude had just said no it doesnt, i asked for numbers u evasive little bitch I mean, it's not even an issue of numbers. Nyr completely evaded the question and gave a bullshit answer. Lel I'm going to be honest here - grammatically speaking, that question does not parse in any way that makes sense. I'm surprised he even answered it without at least asking you to rephrase it in english.
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Post by jcarter on Sept 12, 2014 16:14:18 GMT -5
I mean, it's not even an issue of numbers. Nyr completely evaded the question and gave a bullshit answer. Lel I'm going to be honest here - grammatically speaking, that question does not parse in any way that makes sense. I'm surprised he even answered it without at least asking you to rephrase it in english. it makes plenty of sense question: what is the current status of the world -as far as size between Allanak and Tuluk -also in comparison to rest of the world -in the context of PCs it's not the most succinct way of asking it but it's clear he's asking about numbers of PCs playing in different parts of the world.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 12, 2014 16:21:19 GMT -5
Yeah, even if Nyr somehow didn't understand the question, (which, honestly, he should have) there is no way that he misunderstood it so monumentally that he thought he was giving a good answer. It was an obvious dodge no matter how you cut it.
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Post by jkarr on Sept 12, 2014 16:27:39 GMT -5
but nice try tho lizzard
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Post by Lizzie on Sept 12, 2014 16:35:10 GMT -5
Reading that at a leisurely pace makes my head hurt. After a bit of thought - sure, it makes sense. Maybe. During what was (I assume) a fairly fast paced barrage of questions, though? I'm not sure most people would understand what was being asked. I'm also not sure most people would be inclined to dig around for specific data during a live communication like this, especially not when the person who asked the question did so in such a confusing way to begin with. He also is answering the question, just not with hard numbers. Arguably, he's doing so in a clearer and more succinct manner than the question was posed:
"Can you please draw attention to the large player-population difference in the game's two main hubs?" "I looked at that recently, we're trying to find a way to make the other groups more enticing."
Sure, he wasn't admitting what you all wanted him to admit outright. But he was tacitly admitting it, while trying to address what, in his quantity-over-quality-obsessed mind, was the real issue. There's a lot to be mad at Nyr about, but with some things you need to ask yourself "could this have actually been handled better, given the situation?" Would you have preferred people stopped to dig up specific bits of information in order to answer every question with precision detail, every time a question was asked?
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Post by jcarter on Sept 12, 2014 17:07:29 GMT -5
He also is answering the question, just not with hard numbers. NYR: Yeah, that’s something I looked at fairly recently, even this week. There are some areas we can make some adjustments with clans, and we’re looking to implement that in the future. You may see stuff announced, it may just be stuff that just changes. We’ll go from there at that point. I hope that answers your question. in what way does that answer the question of "what is the current status of the world as far as population base" in the context of PCs and for Allanak vs Tuluk? Nyr says the following: 1)he looked at it recently 2)some adjustments can be made to clans 3)look for announcements in the future that's not an answer.
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Post by jkarr on Sept 12, 2014 17:12:27 GMT -5
yea genius he didnt answer the question at all. he said i looked at that fairly recently (no one asked him that) and didnt respond to what the current status of the pc populations between tuluk and allanak (mainly) as well as other places
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Post by Deleted on Sept 12, 2014 17:21:30 GMT -5
The fact that he said "I hope that answers your question" is the best part.
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Post by Lizzie on Sept 12, 2014 17:44:31 GMT -5
He also is answering the question, just not with hard numbers. NYR: Yeah, that’s something I looked at fairly recently, even this week. There are some areas we can make some adjustments with clans, and we’re looking to implement that in the future. You may see stuff announced, it may just be stuff that just changes. We’ll go from there at that point. I hope that answers your question. in what way does that answer the question of "what is the current status of the world as far as population base" in the context of PCs and for Allanak vs Tuluk? Nyr says the following: 1)he looked at it recently 2)some adjustments can be made to clans 3)look for announcements in the future that's not an answer. He is, however, tacitly admitting that one set of clans is in need of players compared to another. If that's not what the person was looking for, why else would they want to see the numbers?
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