how to assassin?

I'm not seeing how these two opinions are mutually exclusive. When it comes to skill use it's going to be obvious you're not a warrior nor a ranger.



You have yet to provide any examples for discussion. If we're going to play this game then any character can pass themselves as anything because I say so and if you don't think that way well you're just a bad video gamer.



Maybe you should calm down a bit about who is the alpha text game player and try posting constructively in a thread called 'how to' with advice on how to rather than declaring if you can't do it welp you're just a bad player.

Listen man, I get you're the alpha wolf 15 year veteran player. Good for you, that's great veterans are always welcome here. I'm sure you're way better at Armageddon MUD the roleplaying intensive experience than I am. But this whole attitude is getting pretty tiring so you got two options: tone it down and post like someone who isn't getting defensive over optimal niche video game training habits or go back to being passive-aggressive on the GDB.

jkarr - Your early posts have some valid points, but your behavior isn't winning you any credibility. You're being an ass. I would say you deserve a "Well, that escalated quickly" meme, but it didn't escalate. You started at ass, for some reason.

That being said, I would agree that most of your ideas in your first post are good ways to throw guild sniffers in the short run. Don't want everyone to realize you can't parry? Don't join a sparring clan. Solid. Don't want everyone to know you only have piercing/bludgeoning? Use an axe from time to time. Not a bad plan. Train in secret, on your own. Sure, that could work for a while if you're careful. Play your sub? Could work for a month IRL maybe?

The main problem with these plans however, is that they lack longevity. You can carry an axe, but if you train with anyone, they'll begin to realize that you either never use the thing, or that there is a suspiciously large gap between your piercing and chopping skill. Training in secret is okay to start, but eventually, whether you realize it or not, someone is going to catch you backstabbing gurth. You can be careful about it, but you cannot be certain. Playing your sub might work for a little while depending on your sub. But if you took hunter to pretend to be a ranger, people are going to get curious about why you can't ride no-handed. (You might be able to pull it off with riding gear, but you will never be a great rider. Plus, no charge.) Playing a tailor? WORST thing you can do.

Here's the conversation.
Amosjak the dwarf: "Eh der fella! Wadda ya do?"
You: "I'm a tailor."
Amosjak: "Oh yar? Can'ae make me some arrows?"
You: "No, just sandcloth sleeves and leggings."

Congratulations - Amosjak thinks you're a magicker. Which has netted you far more attention than if you'd answered his first question with "I sew and backstab people." Subguilds and even extended subs don't give you enough skills to go on to feasibly pretend to be something you're not for very long.

Besides lacking realistic longevity, you also have a severely diminished ability to raise your assassin skills. Sure, you can be careful. Train off peak, and make sure there are no witnesses. But you can't keep that up forever. Eventually someone will notice you skulking around outside the gates, or coming in injured. And what are you going to tell them? You had a sewing accident? At this point it doesn't matter one bit that you've successfully hidden your main guild from people, because you won't have the coded skill to actually assassinate anyone anyways.

Yeah, perhaps it's "meta-gamey" to think this way, but like it or not it's a realistic way to think.

looks like we disagree on that one. u play how u want; it doesn't make it any better or worse than mine or another's play style. my time playing whether 15 yrs or 5 mins is an irrelevant distraction to the points i made. your house your rules

Right! So... what was this thread about again?

There're multiple ways to interpret this title. I believe the OP wanted to know about crim code specifically?

The first and most obvious way to avoid crim-code, is to assassinate people in a room that doesn't raise crim flags. Apartments are probably the most prevalent. Also, abandoned buildings, alleys, rooftops, and anything generally not "public" will not raise crim flags. If you do it in a bar, shop, or city street you're subject to crim-code.

Secondly, time also plays a factor into crim-code. I know for pickpockets, if you're stealing on a street or in the bazaar at "late at night" or "before dawn", you will not get crim flagged on a fail unless the fuzz is directly adjacent to the room you're in. So, if you look n,e,s,w real quick and there isn't a soldier or templar NPC in sight, you won't be crim-flagged for a failed steal attempt. It's plausible to assume that the same may hold true for kill/backstab/sap, however I can't confirm that for you 100% as I've never truly tested it. At any rate, you're less likely to be crim-flagged outdoors at night.

Thirdly, if you can't avoid getting crim-flagged, with maxed out sneak/hide you should be able to stealth past any guards chasing you. If you go over to either spoilers or the log dump, lulz has some logs of his character (Gowan?) icing a Fale Lord in the middle of the Silver Ginka (a tea-house in Allanak) in the middle of the day. I believe he hid until the guards patrolling the room and street outside had cleared the area, and then proceeded to backstab him (raising the crim flag) and then hide/sneak out.

Not the most low-key option, but an option none-the-less.

Another conceivable option is clan halls. If you were to kill a Salarri, you could potentially shadow him into the Salarri compound, and backstab him in the barracks. Pretty sure this wouldn't trigger city crimflags, but there might be some kind of Salarri NPC reaction. I honestly couldn't tell you. It's really not a great way to go, cause now you're stuck in there, unless you can shadow someone back out before they find the body.


Another way to interpret it is, "how to carry out the act of assassination?"

All the "assassinations" I've been involved in have been done by luring someone into an apartment, or out into the desert, or into the rinth, or some other location where there is no law and/or no chance of escaping. You don't need to be class assassin for this. I've also seen people throw/shoot poisoned projectiles from another room at their target. Spam enough to kill them, an then sneak or run off. Like any other PK, your goal is to surprise and overwhelm. I'd love to hear what other players have done for this?

just ravish me already