Radical Notion

How many accounts Delerak had - he bragged about it. Right here on this forum. Nyr posted his "Hey I'm the new staff member" post on the GDB, at some point -after- that. I actually checked because it seemed like he was being all pissy for the wrong reasons. And - I was right. He might have reasons to be pissed off - but Nyr giving him shit during any of his first few accounts can't be one of them, because according to his own posts, and Nyr's posts on the GDB, Nyr didn't exist as Nyr until after the fact.

The gith thing - another announcement on the GDB, when they were looking for secret roles. And then a week later the whole game was talking ICly about the gith. No need to be on staff to know that either.

In fact, there's nothing I've posted, that anyone needs to be on staff to know, and most of it you can find out right on the GDB, or right here in this forum.

But like I said - you've already played judge and jury, exactly like you accuse the staff of Arm of being. But hey if it makes your weenie feel nice and big by thinking I'm Saikun, go ahead and think that. You'll be wrong, but that's nothing new around here.

I think the funniest part of this is the little meltdown you're having and how you devolved into sick burns like "makes your weenie feel nice and big" and hysterically screaming that you have been somehow sentenced by me acting as "judge and jury" (lol what the hell does that even mean, because i posted about how the background of this seems shady?) and that this is exactly what nyr does. oh and then you accused me of secretly being staff as well.

Yes this totally sounds like what a normal poster who mistakenly gets thought of as staff would react as and not the meltdown of an Arm staffer getting caught would do.

sorry I think the nyr statement flew over your head, I was referring to the part where you said I am acting just like the staff of Arm acts, except I just pulled out Nyr as my example. Cool your jets no one is accusing you of having a receding hairline.

In other words, don't fuck with jcarter or he will eviscerate you with logic.

I do think that if enough people stopped logging in and playing, with staff reading these boards and knowing that it was in response (by players) to Nyr, presenting a unified front of opposition wherein things could either continue as they are (players be damned) or they could cut Nyr loose (Nyr be damned, players be listened to and validated). Should I -not- answer a question posed on a forum? Or could it be that I simply think that that's the answer to how to best achieve the end asked about? Hint: It's the second. I am not playing Arm anymore. I'm here to talk to other people from the community and answer questions and socialize. You know that part where the kid is disobedient and they get caught and the parent looks at them and says 'I'm not upset, I'm just so disappointed'. That's a really good summary. Let someone who cares more be the one to enjoy it if it works. But the way I see it: Hack and crash the game, or refuse to log in. Those are the only two avenues that players can take to express their malcontent to such an unsilenceable degree that they are heard, and thus POSSIBLY make a difference with regards to the administration. And since (if it were -my- game) if Arm were hacked, I wouldn't expect it to necessarily be brought back again... the refusal to log in seems like not just the most legal, but also the most sane advice to give.

I love Armageddon. I've been playing it since the very early years of its existence. Across the years, the game changed numerous times. The players changed, the atmosphere, the theme, the hardcoreness, and the imms. It is very misguided to think it hypocritical to be critical of parts of this game and yet still love it. Many people find faults in things they love. Especially if those faults are harmful to the thing they love. Sometimes, it may even make sense to stop playing Arm, just to show how harmful one, or another thing is. In hopes that this will fix the problem, or perhaps make it better for the others.

Personally I am against the boycott. I believe the best thing out there to combat behavior like Nyr's, is this very forum. That as long as it's not a circle jerk of people wanking each other's hatred penises off, the posts here have an impact on the players and staff. As long as the critiques are constructive and founded, they will be read by the public and imms. I compare these forums versus GDB to free press versus propaganda. With people here relatively anonymous who post, or even simply read the posts. And people on GDB, who know their posts can affect their accounts and so either filter their statements, or worse yet turn into sycophants, hoping for their statements to affect their accounts positively.

At the same time, boycotting was generally the most universal and affective method of combating bad behavior. If a Templar showed up in Nak who was kill happy and completely unreasonable, yet no one had the guts, the knowhow, or prowess to just off the guy. It resulted in massive exodus. Merchant Houses 'suddenly' would grow scarce in Nak and more active in Tuluk, people would create characters somewhere else, the works. Same with the rinth, Tuluk, Kurac, etc. When an asshole behavior went "over the limit" to a point of loss of fun, there was consequence. This was the way of things in Armageddon for over a decade. So yes, boycotting is affective. If peoople truly think that a massive exodus from the game would force Imms to review Nyr's behavior, it might be worthwhile.

Personally, I dont believe it is worthwhile though. These forums are currently the best method to curtail Nyr's behavior, or at the very least make him try and control himself. But one shouldnt say boycotting is entirely ineffective. Alike free press, boycotting is the most common and affective non-violent way to combat things that are physically, or codedly more powerful then you are. It is most definitely an option. But in my opinion, not the best one.

For the record, I play Arm almost every day. I have contemplated leaving numerous times. Very often, after learning about another one of Nyr's stunts. I was never affected by Nyr personally, so I have no personal reasons to hate the guy. But I definitely dislike the shit he've done to others. I can safely say that his behavior is one of the main reasons I employ this website and betray the agreement I once made regarding sharing information.

Haha, exactly.

Though the responses those "wacky posters" often get can be just as rewarding.