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Post by lulz on Sept 23, 2014 4:41:49 GMT -5
Your head's-up was the post saying things changed Oh Nyr, even your doppelganger is at a loss.  |
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Post by BitterFlashback on Sept 23, 2014 5:13:34 GMT -5
Your head's-up was the post saying things changed Oh Nyr, even your doppelganger is at a loss. ...  Sometimes that guy just leaves you no room for satire. fuck. |
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Post by lulz on Sept 28, 2014 22:38:46 GMT -5
I was making the case for "neither". To use your example, the soup desired is not on the menu. The restaurant took it off of the menu. They have other soups. You might not like them, but that's okay, people like what they want to like. They've also said they want to bring that soup back, but it might have a new recipe that better fits the tastes of the restaurant. Also, the meal is free, the cooks aren't paid, and you have to bring some of your own cooking supplies if you want a stellar meal. Opted to include the entire quote for context. I'd actually love to meet the guy one day. Not to fight or debate, but just to listen to how he reasons things. |
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Post by delerak on Sept 28, 2014 22:52:33 GMT -5
Just walk into a baptist church in the south and you'll see a Nyr at the pulpit.  |
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Post by Deleted on Sept 28, 2014 22:53:21 GMT -5
so basically make your own meal while chefs who aren't good enough to get paid watch you and bitch about how you're messing up the kitchen. sounds like a blast. totes on board.
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Post by BitterFlashback on Sept 29, 2014 5:05:33 GMT -5
I was making the case for "neither". To use your example, the soup desired is not on the menu. The restaurant took it off of the menu. They have other soups. You might not like them, but that's okay, people like what they want to like. They've also said they want to bring that soup back, but it might have a new recipe that better fits the tastes of the restaurant. Also, the meal is free, the cooks aren't paid, and you have to bring some of your own cooking supplies if you want a stellar meal. Opted to include the entire quote for context. I'd actually love to meet the guy one day. Not to fight or debate, but just to listen to how he reasons things. He left out the part where the cooks knock the bowl out of yor hand if your soup turns out too well. or if you look like youre enjoying it too much. Or if you share your soup with other people who prefer it to the restaurants. Just walk into a baptist church in the south and you'll see a Nyr at the pulpit. Oh come on. he's clearly a fedora-wearing atheist. he's even the right age for it. |
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Post by jcarter on Sept 29, 2014 5:26:44 GMT -5
Just walk into a baptist church in the south and you'll see a Nyr at the pulpit. Oh come on. he's clearly a fedora-wearing atheist. he's even the right age for it. with the constant guilt-tripping over "we're volunteers" whenever people question why things aren't done i think he's actually someone's Jewish mother irl |
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Post by BitterFlashback on Sept 29, 2014 5:33:56 GMT -5
Possible, but ive never heard him mention matzo ball soup. Which is the shit.
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Post by Patuk on Sept 29, 2014 7:54:24 GMT -5
The responses in that thread basically amount to 'no, you're wrong, and we're going to be as vague as possible about the reason why.'
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Post by Deleted on Sept 29, 2014 8:04:43 GMT -5
so basically make your own meal while chefs who aren't good enough to get paid watch you and bitch about how you're messing up the kitchen. sounds like a blast. totes on board. You staffed for awhile and you weren't paid. Does that mean you weren't good enough either? Getting paid has no bearing on quality of work. |
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Post by BitterFlashback on Sept 29, 2014 8:33:12 GMT -5
so basically make your own meal while chefs who aren't good enough to get paid watch you and bitch about how you're messing up the kitchen. sounds like a blast. totes on board. You staffed for awhile and you weren't paid. Does that mean you weren't good enough either? she clearly said she had a blast and was totes on board. Getting paid has no bearing on quality of work. Equivocation. The original statement was "you're not good enough to get paid" which you've inverted into "being paid would turn you into a better worker". Even ignoring your fallacious argument, the idea people never vary the quality of their work based on pay is so stupid that i can't even think of an analogy for it. are you an academic? We here in the real world dont have tenure. |
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Post by Deleted on Sept 29, 2014 10:43:17 GMT -5
The repeated use of "volunteer" seems to misrepresent staff's position. Yes, staff have limited resources (time among other things), if they need more there isn't a shortage of volunteers. I think the real issue is how those volunteers' resources (time) are managed. Do staff enjoy being on staff? Why/why not? It's been noted that many storytellers want to do things and they're requests are consistently declined.
As ghaati pointed out, quality of work isn't based on monetary amounts, it's based on talent and motivation. The biggest motivator for performance is personal enjoyment and satisfaction. What's the best way to improve staff member's personal enjoyment and satisfaction? Current staff's solution seems to to reduce their work load. I think a better solution is to make being on staff fun and seem like as little like work as possible. This would make being a volunteer something someone wanted to be, instead of an excuse that is given.
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Post by mood on Sept 29, 2014 12:30:35 GMT -5
Oh come on. he's clearly a fedora-wearing atheist. he's even the right age for it. i seem to remember him being a youth minister or something. at the very least im like 90% sure he plays in his local church band. lol |
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Post by topkekm8s on Sept 29, 2014 12:49:08 GMT -5
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Post by Deleted on Sept 29, 2014 15:14:05 GMT -5
so basically make your own meal while chefs who aren't good enough to get paid watch you and bitch about how you're messing up the kitchen. sounds like a blast. totes on board. You staffed for awhile and you weren't paid. Does that mean you weren't good enough either? Getting paid has no bearing on quality of work. I'm actually NOT qualified to be paid for any gaming job I can think of, unless it involves writing articles about games I've played. Therefore, you are correct. I never said it did affect the quality of work. But if it's some guy volunteering your brain surgery in a seedy alleyway vs a licensed neurosurgeon... which one do you think is going to totally fuck it up? That's more in line with the point I'm trying to make, there. |
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