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Nyr's Greatest Hits Jul 30, 2014 9:55:38 GMT -5 via mobile BitterFlashback likes this

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Post by lyse on Jul 30, 2014 9:55:38 GMT -5

Jul 29, 2014 19:47:15 GMT -5 yoashi said:

Regarding Karma:

Added 1 karma, making 1 total, for happy 1 year anniversary
(almost) - 5/24/07.

Set karma to 2, Been a year, no bad notes, lets see what
they do. - 6/30/08.

Added 1 karma, making 3 total, for I'm impressed with his
grasp of and performance with a Jihaen/northern templar - 5/21/10.

Set karma to 2, Rebelled from the clan and then suicided his leader PC because he didn't want to wait for storage. - 9/06/11.

Set karma to 1, Docking 1 point for
active involvement on jcarter forums. He has agreed to stop posting there.
This can be regained in 6 months provided there are no other issues. -
5/30/13.

Related to the last one, I didn't agree to stop posting, I agreed to stop spreading in game information, as I don't really think they have a leg to stand on if I'm just "involved" with the forums. But on the topic of karma, thats 9 years of gameplay. It took 3 years and a "no bad notes" to get to 2 karma, and then another year to get a third. Its now been 9 years and I have a single point of karma.

Karma is meaningless unless you want to play a magicker, who just skills up quickly and is superior in PvP, but Arm is no longer about the PvP. Its a social gathering place where sometimes a really good player plays a really good flawed PC. I don't need to play a mul sorceror to have a good time, especially when "human burglar" can do so much shit anyways.

Maybe it's all where and when you play, but I see a shit load of power gaming and pvp. And this is from some of those high post having, I wish the game were harder type players. The only difference between now and before is before, at least you got decent RP with that stuff, now you get a lot of spam walking, command macro'ing, idle in a public place...crap.

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Nyr's Greatest Hits Aug 2, 2014 23:23:40 GMT -5 jkarr likes this

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Post by Lizzie on Aug 2, 2014 23:23:40 GMT -5

Jul 28, 2014 16:16:05 GMT -5 Prime Minister Sinister said:

Lizzie said:

I agree that there's bias and favoritism and unfairness. I don't agree that it's dangerous to the game. In fact, I'd rather the staff favor a stellar roleplayer with stellar roles, than give stellar roles to random dorf amos teh lil teefy guy out of "fairness." What's fair to the game, isn't necessarily what's fair to individual players. We'll all have our turn at being butt-hurt, and we'll all get over it. In that sense, it IS fair. Smiley

I... what?

You heard me.

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Nyr's Greatest Hits Aug 3, 2014 16:30:57 GMT -5

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Post by Deleted on Aug 3, 2014 16:30:57 GMT -5

I, and I think others disagree, simply because of the staff definition of "stellar roleplayer".

I am beyond confident that any subset of posters on this board could quickly assemble a list of players who are very talented, but get passed over. Rather than risk the idea that you might think I am complaining for myself, I know what my problem is with staff. I'm talking about the skilled, consistent rpers we all know who arent allowed up the ladder.

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Nyr's Greatest Hits Sept 16, 2014 11:45:59 GMT -5

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Post by BitterFlashback on Sept 16, 2014 11:45:59 GMT -5

Nyr regarding the role of sorcerer being nerfed (by replacing the guild with one of 4 subguilds with significantly limited spells):

Saellyn on September 15, 2014, 06:14:49 AM
Granted, I'll accept that, but I still think having a full-power sorc should be on the table. Maybe as a special app, maybe as an "Oh your sorc survived for like two years ig which is really rare for a sorc to do, congratulations you can now learn a new branch of magick!"

I think we'll put more thought into it before reintroducing a guild that allowed (at least) three times the branching of any other given magicker guild and is nigh unstoppable at the upper end unless staff intervene.

Yeah. they have three times as many skill branches as guilds that take 1/4 the karma. numbers are important! They can also be killed by a 0 karma role with 1 - 2 arrows.

for those of you who might be new to arm and reading this board, some context is necessary. Karma is a quantification of 1) staff trust and 2) time playd. Sorcerer and psionicist are the two HIGHEST TRUST roles in the entire game. so how is it even slightly reasonable to point out when sorcs hit the high end they're almost unstoppable? If they weren't powerful why the fuck would they need 8 karma to be played?!

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Mar 22, 2016 4:20:49 GMT -5 @anaiah said:

What I'm arguing is that there's not any valid reason to suddenly be worried that every single person in game is going to be killing you with a rageboner made of magick. People had perfectly good rageboners without magick

Deleted Deleted Member Posts: 0	Nyr's Greatest Hits Sept 16, 2014 13:06:19 GMT -5 Quote Select Post Deselect Post Link to Post Member Give Gift Back to Top Post by Deleted on Sept 16, 2014 13:06:19 GMT -5 oh but you could FORCE them to make the world come to life by having a bag of tricks that required more than censuring, instant squashing or failure regardless of how you try.

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Nyr's Greatest Hits Sept 16, 2014 13:11:11 GMT -5 Kronibas 2.0 likes this

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Post by BitterFlashback on Sept 16, 2014 13:11:11 GMT -5

What are the templarate if not a way to task pcs with killing a sorc so the staff doesnt have to animate-- oh, what am I saying? Templars are there to add flavor to the game. Nevermind. response retracted.

EDIT: Then theres this gem. Playing Semantics for Beginners, by Nyr O'Cockbag.

It has been stated that the sorcerer guild hasn't been removed. Sorcerers are still sorcerers. Playable sorcerers are different now.

THANK YOU SO MUCH. PLAYERS COULDNT POSSIBLY BE COMPLAINING ABOUT THE SORCERER OPTION BEING TAKEN AWAY FROM THEM. CLEARLY THEY WERE AFRAID THERE'D NEVER BE ANOTHER NPC USING THE HARD-CODED SORCERER GUILD. YES. THANK YOU FOR THIS CLARIFICATION THAT TOTALLY WASN'T A HOLLOW REPLY WITH A FACT NOT IN QUESTION. YUO ARE TRULY HELPFUL AND NOT JUST TRYING TO TALK OVER EVERYONE.

i had to use caps there because Nyr might read this board and seems to be immune to detecting nuance. Im hoping the large letters convey a tone of absolute credulousness.

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Mar 22, 2016 4:20:49 GMT -5 @anaiah said:

What I'm arguing is that there's not any valid reason to suddenly be worried that every single person in game is going to be killing you with a rageboner made of magick. People had perfectly good rageboners without magick

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Nyr's Greatest Hits Sept 16, 2014 15:29:23 GMT -5 jkarr and BitterFlashback like this

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Post by jcarter on Sept 16, 2014 15:29:23 GMT -5

gdb.armageddon.org/index.php/topic,48060.175.html

in which nyr accuses a player who shares their two cents in a completely normal way in the staff-speicified thread of "raising hell" (lol) and goes back to a thread from a year ago to dig up retorts. then accuses that player of being upset.

bonus ownage on the next page:

Ouroboros said:

Nyr said:

Tone down the rhetoric, and lighten up about getting disagreed with...it's going to happen.

Would you prefer a light-hearted humorous approach instead? The message would remain the same really, just as yours does, even when buried in smilies.

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	The only thing we learn from history is that we learn nothing from history -- Hegel Nov 3, 2014 15:20:50 GMT -5 @anaiah said: I have a borderline genius IQ, actually. Mar 2, 2015 1:38:00 GMT -5 picklehead said: Ya but what about the minors being exploited textually?

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Nyr's Greatest Hits Sept 16, 2014 20:42:13 GMT -5 jkarr, BitterFlashback, and 1 more like this

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Post by lulz on Sept 16, 2014 20:42:13 GMT -5

Sorry, I know Nyr didn't say this, but I just HAVE to include it here:

I'm sure Nyr was just as much an.... er, was just as much himself when he was a player, as he is a staff member.

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Nov 3, 2014 15:20:50 GMT -5 @anaiah said:

I have a borderline genius IQ, actually.

Mar 2, 2015 1:38:00 GMT -5 picklehead said:

Ya but what about the minors being exploited textually?

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Nyr's Greatest Hits Sept 16, 2014 20:56:29 GMT -5 jkarr likes this

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Post by jcarter on Sept 16, 2014 20:56:29 GMT -5

what makes it even funnier is that i think nyr was really hoping he could get him agitated so he'd have an excuse to delete his posts or ban him. when that didn't work and nyr got called out for his hyperbole (lol "raised all hell") while oroboros stayed as cool as a cucumber he just stopped replying.

lulz Obsessed Player Fellating Bombardier The Ghost of Gol Krathu Posts: 945	Nyr's Greatest Hits Sept 16, 2014 20:58:48 GMT -5 Quote Select Post Deselect Post Link to Post Member Give Gift Back to Top Post by lulz on Sept 16, 2014 20:58:48 GMT -5 Exactly. Nyr was baiting him and he didn't fall for it. Good on'em.
	The only thing we learn from history is that we learn nothing from history -- Hegel Nov 3, 2014 15:20:50 GMT -5 @anaiah said: I have a borderline genius IQ, actually. Mar 2, 2015 1:38:00 GMT -5 picklehead said: Ya but what about the minors being exploited textually?

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	Hater. Gonna hate. Mar 22, 2016 4:20:49 GMT -5 @anaiah said: What I'm arguing is that there's not any valid reason to suddenly be worried that every single person in game is going to be killing you with a rageboner made of magick. People had perfectly good rageboners without magick

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Nyr's Greatest Hits Sept 19, 2014 15:32:50 GMT -5

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Post by BitterFlashback on Sept 19, 2014 15:32:50 GMT -5

gdb.armageddon.org/index.php/topic,48076.0.html

Molten Heart:
September 16, 2014

This is something I was hoping to ask at the latest play staff meeting but couldn't attend.

What vision do you, the staff, have for the game? Where do you see the game in one, five years, and even ten years? What you have any goals or a focus that you can share that you hope to achieve in the game's future? Are there any additions that were planned to be added to Armageddon Reborn that you hope to incorporate into the game?

The unresponse:

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Quote from: Molten Heart on September 16, 2014, 02:52:28 PM
What vision do you, the staff, have for the game?

Covered in 2013's player/staff meeting. It hasn't really changed.

Quote from: Nyr on February 20, 2013, 08:33:15 AM

SPACEWARS: I just want to ask what staff’s current vision is for the game.

ADHIRA: My primary vision for Armageddon right now is that it keeps going. I’m invested in seeing that the MUD doesn’t fail - that we keep a stable environment for people to keep playing in.

MORGENES: On my side, I want to make sure we’re evolving - that we’re listening to players and responding, both from the story and code, fixing things with the latter while we work on our new engine. The main problem with that is we’re all volunteers, and a lot of us are busy people. How much we’re doing really depends on what’s happening in real life.

NYR: From my point of view, I like to keep track of plots and make sure things are moving along with players and their particular plots...supporting them on a better scale, and see if we can improve on that...and also to see if we can bring it farther than we have done in the past. That's kind of disjointed, but that's my view.

ADHIRA: There’s a lot of people out there that think the new staffing method means there’s less plot and animation. If you don’t notice much of the latter, it’s probably because the storyteller wants it that way. We try and base our plots around what you’re doing in game. Hopefully you’ll see some evidence of that yourself.

Where do you see the game in one, five years, and even ten years?

Still doing that.

What you have any goals or a focus that you can share that you hope to achieve in the game's future?

Still doing that.

This is not a new thought as it has been posted before several times with regards to plans, but this is a volunteer effort for a free game. We've found that laying out specific goals beyond a broad outline (mentioned above) isn't really appropriate. We prefer to show by doing, and reveal once things are done rather than at the brainstorming stage. We don't typically announce coding projects, plots, and major changes far in advance because we don't know when they will get done. Were we making this a full time effort, that might be different, but emphasis must be placed on the fact that this is a free game staffed by volunteers (once again). Real life comes first. We do not expect players to put this game ahead of their lives. We hope that players will extend us the same courtesy, but this tends to be overlooked from time to time. For instance, we recently laid out that one of the (many) reasons for making code changes to the game (cities and a guild) was to reduce the obligation to animate for very specific cases, freeing us up to use that same time in animation in other cases and in that same case if time and efforts allow. One response was that it is staff's job to animate, so we should get over it. We understand why any player might think that, but hopefully it is clear that just like players, we ration our time and efforts in this game. Also, staff hierarchy/administration would be the one to determine how staff should spend their time--hence changes to allow more freedom in very specific cases. But that's nuanced and isn't as easy to say as "do your job," so it gets overlooked...and understandably so. Just emphasizing again here for clarity.

In cases where we do seek feedback or announce a plan in advance, it will tie into the above-mentioned vision.

Are there any additions that were planned to be added to Armageddon Reborn that you hope to incorporate into the game?

Yes.

So. let's do a quick recap.

The game's vision is: to keep going, evolving, moving along, and bringing it further.
WE ARE UNPAID VOLUNTEERS AND THIS IS A FREE GAME.
In 1, 5, and 10 years, the vision for the game is: Still doing "that"
WE ARE UNPAID VOLUNTEERS AND THIS IS A FREE GAME.
Goals or a focus that staff can share regardng what they hope to achieve in the games future: Still doing "that"
WE ARE UNPAID VOLUNTEERS AND THIS IS A FREE GAME.
WE ARE UNPAID VOLUNTEERS AND THIS IS A FREE GAME.

The whole thing is reminiscent of this (partially edited) clip from Better Off Ted, where two characters have to put on a half hour presentation for a project that doesn't exist:

So. basically no vision. I could swear someone called tht one already...

Sept 16, 2014 17:17:20 GMT -5 BitterFlashback said:

Sept 16, 2014 16:19:50 GMT -5 jcarter said:

i just want to know what this staff vision of the game is supposed to be or what the idealized version is.

Like i told you, there is no vision. Vision requires looking into the future. the staff can only see into the present. There is a direction thouh: it's a downward spiral. They feel overworked. since the players make work for them, they take things away from the players to cut down on work. But the methods they use create even more work than they obviated. And instead of removng the stupid shit they did, they take away more shit in a way that produces even yet still more work.

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Mar 22, 2016 4:20:49 GMT -5 @anaiah said:

What I'm arguing is that there's not any valid reason to suddenly be worried that every single person in game is going to be killing you with a rageboner made of magick. People had perfectly good rageboners without magick

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Nyr's Greatest Hits Sept 19, 2014 16:43:53 GMT -5

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Post by jcarter on Sept 19, 2014 16:43:53 GMT -5

nyr is the master of posting a lot of words that say absolutely nothing.

edit: lol nyr is still fucking mad about Oroboros

Nyr said:

One response was that it is staff's job to animate, so we should get over it.

not quoting the rest of the post, but he had several more sentences that were not at all pertinent to the question asked and obviously just him still mad about his exchange a few days ago with Oroboros.

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	Hater. Gonna hate. Mar 22, 2016 4:20:49 GMT -5 @anaiah said: What I'm arguing is that there's not any valid reason to suddenly be worried that every single person in game is going to be killing you with a rageboner made of magick. People had perfectly good rageboners without magick