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Post by Azerbanjani on Aug 24, 2016 19:46:21 GMT -5
I know polearms parry good. Not too sure about swords. I'd bet 3 cents on it tho.
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Post by sirra on Aug 24, 2016 20:08:39 GMT -5
Anyone got evicdence of swords having better parry then other weapons? Or is this all just bullshit? Outside of rl circumstances duhhh Em tries to parry with a pike rl against a guy with a club Swords have a tiny bonus to offense and defense. Most other weapons have a penalty to defense (axes, clubs) and a large bonus to offense. I forget how spears stacked up exactly. It was something stupid, IIRC. There are some amazing axes and clubs out there, though. And a lot of 'meh' swords. I actually hated swords, but somehow, I kept using them. And every time I was like, 'goddamnit! why did I master swords again!?'. But I liked not having the penalty to Defense. I literally mastered swords three times in a row, and each time I cursed myself.
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Post by Azerbanjani on Aug 25, 2016 19:23:22 GMT -5
Spears/piercing are pretty solid. I'd debate they make you crit more often.
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Post by someguy on Aug 26, 2016 5:17:57 GMT -5
Whips are all slashing right?
Or is whip a branchable skill?
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Post by sirra on Aug 26, 2016 17:38:52 GMT -5
Whips are all slashing right? Or is whip a branchable skill? Whips are their own offensive weapon category and weapon skill (think whipping weapons). It's just no class has the weapon skill. They're not governed by slashing weapons at all, although they should be. IIRC, even if a whipping weapon SAYS it is doing slashing damage, it's really not a slashing weapon. Anaiah posted a copy and paste of the hidden offensive table for each character, and you can see whips clearly in their own separate category. Tangential Observation: IIRC, the only reason for ever using a whipping weapon, was with a lightning elementalist on crack and buffed out with a sky high offense/defense, as it'd be extremely hard to parry their energy whips. Since parry gets a big boost from your weapon skill in the weapon being parried against. But there's also like 5 other better strategies for being a dangerous elkro so it's never seen...and wouldn't be nowadays with hybrid madness. I've had insanely skilled up rangers, warriors and assassins. Weapon skill makes a huge difference. Even the 10-20 points that just comes from starting with it at novice. My rangers with swords could butcher assassins with only bludgeoning/piercing. A warrior that gets any advanced weapon into the high journeyman, will butcher the best maxed out ranger in the world owing to the parry drop-off. Abuzer and Nadhir sparred almost every day, for something like thirty straight days of playing time. We both twinked on stilt lizards. Abuzer is the dwarf that killed like 4-5 delves by himself in under a minute. Nadhir (a ranger) could beat him up to the very end when it was a contest with the four main weapons. But 9 days playing time into training with pikes, Abuzer started to rip him up (like getting brutal wounds with a training weapon). Nadhir had previously only lost in sparring to Hawk using a training trident, looong ago. He could not lose if it was axes/clubs/swords/spears. There is a log up here of him killing a maxed out staff-statted delf warrior sent specifically to assassinate him while he was with six other people. (He told them to leave, stayed and fought the delf). I've experienced the same thing every time I took an assassin into the Byn. It's also why merchants, burglars, mages, pickpockets, etc, under 15-20 days played time, are almost like instant kills to even newbie combat chars. I'm not saying weapon skill is like a 1:1 transfer to parrying, but it feels like at least a 2:1 or 3:1.
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my2sids
Displaced Tuluki
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Post by my2sids on Aug 26, 2016 18:15:15 GMT -5
I asked for a whip skill boost specifically with a specapp but the imms couldn't figure it out and told me there was no way to bump it. Which makes me think it's a defunct skill that doesn't work.
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Post by jcarter on Aug 26, 2016 18:38:45 GMT -5
I asked for a whip skill boost specifically with a specapp but the imms couldn't figure it out lol
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Post by Azerbanjani on Aug 26, 2016 22:02:50 GMT -5
"They're not governed by slashing weapons at all,"
As far as I know there is a whip that SAYS it is a slashing weapon Not like "Oh it does slash damage" But assessing it says "Hey this is a slashing weapon"
That being said it's a shitty weapon in general so I wouldn'tu se it.
Whats the best advanced weapon/basic weapon in your opinions?
I feel like polearms would be cool. I can also never convince my self to use axes. Mostly because I'm banned but you know
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grumble
GDB Superstar
toxic shithead
Destroyer of Worlds
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Post by grumble on Aug 26, 2016 22:37:09 GMT -5
I think the reason the advanced training weapons wreak so much havok is because they tend to weigh ten stone. Then again I could be off on that because i've utterly RIPPED shit with training knives. Same time, training razors seem to do a jackload of nothing in terms of damage.
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