delerak
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Post by delerak on Sept 13, 2013 20:31:32 GMT -5
Contract? lol. Those contracts I heard about are such bullshit it's not even funny. I'd love to see one.
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Post by lulz on Sept 13, 2013 23:33:09 GMT -5
Already answered Mr. Hoffa.
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Post by jimmyhoffa on Sept 13, 2013 23:58:01 GMT -5
Already answered Mr. Hoffa. She explained why she left the game, not why she decided to come here and likely sever ties as it were. Thanks fellow teamster. |
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Post by nessalin on Sept 14, 2013 6:25:40 GMT -5
Anaiah,
Thank you for your response. I often think of Armageddon as a troubled game, and I feel that the source of those problems are both institutional and are a product of evolutionary design.
If you were starting a new MUD from the ground up, what would you do to help make sure that the MUD produces a better gaming experience? I tend to feel that if the Arm staff had it to do all over again they would do much better.
-Nessalin
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Post by topkekm8s on Sept 14, 2013 9:06:55 GMT -5
I still dont get why arm 2 was scrapped
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Post by Deleted on Sept 14, 2013 9:47:41 GMT -5
So I really don't know who you are to be honest. Your name looks familiar as does your avatar which I'm guessing is from the zalanthas forums. Can you give us all a brief background of the time frame you were on staff, (month year(s)) and what characters you've played that we may know? My time playing actually started in January of 2008. I was on staff from July of 2010 to October of 2011. Since I just got the official email saying that my mortal account is permanently banned (I hadn't quit playing, of course), I'll feel free to release some of the characters I played. If it hadn't, I would not. But since, of course, the account will never have another pc on it, it seems less worrisome to do so. Sira - 2008 - the gaunt, silver-haired teen (Hlum Partisan) Cumani - 2008 - hell if I recall (Hlum Partisan) Aiya - 2009, I think - the diminutive, drov-tressed woman (Oashi pupil, Vivaduan) Sid - 2009 - the something, henna-maned (haired?) woman (Salarri hunter) Nil/Kruth/Ayani - 2010 - the streaked, silver-haired woman (*rogue whiran, Kuraci Assistant to Fantasy Writer's Kuraci independent) (I think) (Help Bryl the gemmed breed run the Al'Sahni, who got tied into so many other groups (ie the Sun Runners, the Red Fangs, the Tan Muark, House Kurac, and eventually, even the southern templarate via kidnapping and allying with Validos Fale) Emere/Emmie/Tempest - 2013 - the something slate-eyed woman (Oashi pupil, Whiran) Neri/Azar - 2013 - the diminutive, ivory-inked woman (Oashi pupil, Drovian) Ari - 2013 - the petite, onyx-curled woman (Kadius recruit crafter, Salarr recruit crafter, Kurac assistant) There were a few others that I would count among the numbers of the more fun/entertaining, but I can't think of them off the top of my head. If it weren't for the permaban, I would not have revealed any of them this side of 2010 but... alas. |
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Post by Deleted on Sept 14, 2013 9:53:42 GMT -5
would you say staff have an assume the worst policy with players ? I would say no, they don't necessarily have such a policy but as human nature works, there is a tendency to come into a situation and see something happening, and then watch it from there, sometimes lacking all of the context. When it is not egregious or a repeated scenario, they may use 'pinfo' to put a note under your character's -name- in the account notes. These are not meant to paint a picture of who you are as a player so much as record information gathered while watching your character interact, or record things from reports, pertinent facts, etc. That said, however, there -is- a tendency to note bad behaviors more than good behaviors so that if something negative forms an ongoing picture of abuse it can be discussed or curtailed if possible. Those things said, unfortunately, these negative pinfo notes can act together to paint an unfavorable picture of habits and actions on the part of the player at a glance and thus affect the view of a person negatively. do staff prune account note requests ? could there be even more bad things they didnt want me to know about ? I lost interest in my character and the game after seeing how poorly Im viewed. Yes, absolutely. This is why all account notes must go through such high ranking staff to be processed. There are 'staff only' notes on many accounts. Other things are typically edited out as well, such as the account names of people you got kudos from or sent kudos to, the account names of people you may have killed or who may have killed you, etc. |
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Post by Deleted on Sept 14, 2013 9:59:52 GMT -5
Does staff watch players when they are mud sexing? Come on, fess up! The staff keeps saying no but I never believe them. You guys ever make comments to each other about players mudsexing or does the staff gather in the room, watching and possibly laughing?  ...upon second thought, is this something we even want to know about and consider?  Before I ever got on staff, I was about to mudsex someone else's pc and was speaking with them OOC regarding things. It was an embarassing mutation my pc had and I had someone OOC that that was not an appropriate use of the ooc command. The other player and I were both so embarassed we faded. When my pc, the whiran, kidnapped and sexed up the (at least outwardly) unwilling templar (to her knowledge) against his will, using her magick, when I signed back in, more than one person was happy to tell me it wasn't nearly as close to rape as my pc intended, and 5 of the 7 people who weren't afk topside were in the room it happened in. Feel free to draw your own conclusions. As to myself: Not much. It's not that thrilling to watch other people mud hump. It's not particularly thrilling to mudhump for me, you know? That said, there's been times I've popped in and noticed pcs doing it places like... an exposed balcony above a clearing that was filled with soldiers... and animated the soldiers whistling and catcalling them. |
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Post by Deleted on Sept 14, 2013 10:05:41 GMT -5
What made you decide to oust yourself here and break your staff contract? Was there a single incident which made you decide to do this or was it a series of events? Thanks, Jimmy AmandaGreathouse was my forum name when not on staff. It's permabanned, so I can use the word was. It was the unbelievable condescension demonstrated and the vague character assassinations of Wug there. While 99.9% of the time, I am perfectly happy to try and go on about my day without saying much or anything about stuff like that, I was drunk by 3 pm before I even posted the answer I posted, in the 'do you feel the love' thread, revealing that no, I don't, with an explanation of why (including 2 special apps for whirans denied because 'we'd rather not see you play that guild right now' which Natious edited all of and replaced with a link to a star trek youtube video entitled 'worf gets denied over and over' hahaha, hilarious!), and that, too, was fine when it was edited out. But the implication that that was somehow IC information by Wug, and the condescension there of explaining to me how staff decisions were made when I was on staff for over a year, and then to say that I was complaining about staff when I added that I felt Nyr didn't like me... it was just enough that, being tipsy, I said 'fuck it', came over here, and started posting. Before I was even sober, I was banned. That was enough. Damage done. Now there's nothing to do but try to make the best of it and help you guys out/try to show some level of transparency over here. Because I still love the game. And I want others to enjoy it as well. |
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Post by Deleted on Sept 14, 2013 10:09:26 GMT -5
Anaiah, Thank you for your response. I often think of Armageddon as a troubled game, and I feel that the source of those problems are both institutional and are a product of evolutionary design. If you were starting a new MUD from the ground up, what would you do to help make sure that the MUD produces a better gaming experience? I tend to feel that if the Arm staff had it to do all over again they would do much better. -Nessalin This requires a lengthy answer and I will get back to you on this sometime after I get home tonight. |
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Post by lurklord on Sept 14, 2013 11:50:37 GMT -5
Since I just got the official email saying that my mortal account is permanently banned (I hadn't quit playing, of course), I'll feel free to release some of the characters I played. If it hadn't, I would not. But since, of course, the account will never have another pc on it, it seems less worrisome to do so. Would you be willing to paste the official email here? |
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Post by jcarter on Sept 14, 2013 12:08:11 GMT -5
I've said it before and I'll say it again: it's amazing how much effort goes into punishing and policing the playerbase rather than having honest and open dialogues and reconciling past incidents. Correct me if I'm wrong but rather than getting an e-mail that says hey we get that you're bitter but it's not really cool for you to be dropping this stuff and we'd appreciate if you didn't, you just got straight Nyr'd and permabanned with a terse one liner?
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delerak
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"When you want to fool the world, tell the truth." - Otto Von Bismarck
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Post by delerak on Sept 14, 2013 12:24:45 GMT -5
Arm staff will never reconcile with anybody. Nyr posts on his forums about a ban lift for players, really? Fucking contact me if you want to reconcile. Of course that's my narcissism speaking
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Post by jcarter on Sept 14, 2013 16:40:54 GMT -5
Arm staff will never reconcile with anybody. Nyr posts on his forums about a ban lift for players, really? Fucking contact me if you want to reconcile. Of course that's my narcissism speaking I'm not talking about that, but obviously there's issues coming up and right now the situation is at the worst state for everyone involved. AmandaGreathouse is doing a tell-all of topics staff don't want out there, and in return she's getting banned. It likely could have been avoided entirely if Nyr read up on how to interact with humans and just sent out a nice e-mail saying sorry things worked out poorly, I agree it was shitty posts but it's not cool for you to be doing this. Instead he just jumps straight to banning, which is dumb because it removes away any reason for her to keep topics under wraps. It's not really a mystery why so many people are bitter about the state of things and feel negatively towards staff when a guy who worked online with someone for a couple years can't even send over a simple request. idk, maybe he thinks it'll make him look weak or something but honestly relying solely on your ability to press a ban button to keep order and respect rather than earning it through communicating with the people that you share a hobby and game with reeks even more of insecurity.  |
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Post by slipshod on Sept 14, 2013 17:14:46 GMT -5
do staff get to have a lot of chars and accounts ? do they give theri chars stat buffs or skill bumps ?
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