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Post by blahblahblah on Sept 8, 2024 20:08:03 GMT -5
> What the hell does feed the ADC even mean? it means you suck. i didn't delete out of shame. I deleted it because other posts popped up between mine and yours. i stand by every statement. you're a garbage feeder who is hard stuck in low silver. and my elf can absolutely beat the living holy hell out of your gith.
Again. Don't even know who the hell you are. I have the feeling that I dropped my figurative nutsack on you at some point IG, and you hate me for it. Again, glad you got that off your chest. You mentioned headshots as well, so..
You're fucking crazy.
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Post by jcarter on Sept 8, 2024 20:27:25 GMT -5
help me understand this. why is it hypocritical for someone to want to know how to quickly level up their characters skills but be put off by others engaging in graphic sexual content in the same game. how is it you believe these are mutually exclusive views? i think i made my position about it being none of my business pretty clear, as well as having a neutral standpoint. in fact, we can just refer back to the post where i made that pretty clear and agreed with you that there's nothing wrong with it. Because often times it's ignoring the RP aspect of it, how do I know? I have a guide from here and it tells you DON'T RP it because you could draw attention to yourself. And hey, I'm even neutral on that. I'm pointing out that its weird to me. Its weird to act like its some weird aberrant thing on the GDB, when I know some of the people that say "Eww" do it too. It's weird to me to act like its some weird aberrant thing because I know some of the posters that went "Eww" here do it too.
You seem to be saying you're neutral on it but at the same time saying it's solely for 'titillation'. I gave you a real example of how it isn't just 'titillation', I really don't care if it was exciting to them they got caught and it made me laugh. I gave you a funny example, I could give you a serious example. If you're not saying two things, well I really don't care.
Again, "I roleplay smashing people's heads with a bone club, but doing the sex...oh no, no, I don't do that."
Look, I'm neutral on it too, but it got really one sided really fast. Let's just leave it at that and not argue about whether it adds to RP or not. I just don't like the fake purity thing that's going on here.
your posts have been nonsense. it started with a bizarre attempt at a 'gotcha' where you tried to associate twinking at a video game with sexually explicit emoting. then you posted a story about two players getting caught having mudsex, which gave a third party a laugh, as some sort of counterclaim that two adults writing sexually explicit descriptions to each other is totally for the sake of roleplay and not the two people's sexual gratification. right, i'm sure they're only reading playboy for the articles. now there's a 'fake purity' thing you're trying to bring up without even articulating a point. good fucking lord, if you like having cybersex with other people then go at it. but drop the pretension that it's some sort of ~art~ that's elevating the roleplay. i don't share the same views of people going 'ewww', but is it really that surprising that other adults find it distasteful? are you so lacking in social awareness that you just cannot fathom there exists other people that may think two adults typing to each other 'ohhhh god im soooooooo close' are weird? nvm, we're arguing on an internet bulletin board about things on a 35 year old niche text game so I already know the answer. |
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Post by baron on Sept 8, 2024 20:46:34 GMT -5
> What the hell does feed the ADC even mean? it means you suck. i didn't delete out of shame. I deleted it because other posts popped up between mine and yours. i stand by every statement. you're a garbage feeder who is hard stuck in low silver. and my elf can absolutely beat the living holy hell out of your gith.
Again. Don't even know who the hell you are. I have the feeling that I dropped my figurative nutsack on you at some point IG, and you hate me for it. Again, glad you got that off your chest. You mentioned headshots as well, so..
You're fucking crazy.
i'm not the noob who gets his rocks off typing at a video game. lol roflcopter to anyone admitting to that shit with a straight face. i'm generally pretty shit at FPS games, i always aim for the legs and end up hitting nothing. still, i would 1v1 noscope you in couterstrike, because that how bad you are.my chess ELO is bigger than yours, no doubt (the horsy piece can jump over friendly pieces, pro-tip) and to reiterate, because this one is the most important, my mutant elf lady who crawled out the sewers can absolutely beat up your "ample-chested" gith. sewer elf > f-me gith. that's just physics. |
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Post by jesantu on Sept 8, 2024 23:08:49 GMT -5
The reactions here are so very interesting (and telling).
Badmouth players for skillgaining and no one gets offended or says "how dare you insult me for working on my character's skills!" But pointing out the obvious, that cybersex is cybersex, and the woke brigade raises their fists in the air in protest like it's the most offensive thing ever stated. It just further proves that Arm is primarily a sex-themed MUD. Otherwise why so selective about what hurts your feelings?
Many moons ago I played a noble, and a Kadian (played by Nergal) asked my char about his sexual preferences. I, as my character, replied "none of your business" and you could feel the outrage emanating from Nergal. He tried to use IC language to express that in this world sexuality is open and non-judgemental. To which I had my char again reply "that's still none of your business". Not long later Nergal messaged me as "someone" (since all staff are cowards in that way) and reminded me of the open nature of sexuality on Zalanthas. Dude, all I said was I'm not going to talk about that (to a stranger, no less). I chose not to respond and logged out shortly after. Thankfully he didn't press the matter but I was very much expecting him to and did not enjoy that feeling. It was in fact very creepy.
Tell me again how there's no secret agenda by players AND STAFF to force sex on you. It's not as simple as "you play how you want to play and I play how I want". It is and always has been directly in your face. |
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Post by lyse on Sept 8, 2024 23:39:44 GMT -5
[/quote]your posts have been nonsense. it started with a bizarre attempt at a 'gotcha' where you tried to associate twinking at a video game with sexually explicit emoting.
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No they haven't. There are some people that think twinking on a video game is wrong and people that think ERP is wrong are in the same boat. I know you understand that. I already said if you're interpreting what I said as ERP is art, that's not what I meant and I explained exactly what I meant, it can lead to interesting RP. I know you understand that too.
This is why you're full of shit. Just stop already.
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Post by hates2 on Sept 9, 2024 2:26:03 GMT -5
The reactions here are so very interesting (and telling).
Badmouth players for skillgaining and no one gets offended or says "how dare you insult me for working on my character's skills!" But pointing out the obvious, that cybersex is cybersex, and the woke brigade raises their fists in the air in protest like it's the most offensive thing ever stated. It just further proves that Arm is primarily a sex-themed MUD. Otherwise why so selective about what hurts your feelings?
Most people don't care about people twinking up their skills. They also don't care about people cybersexing as long as they are not (or do not feel) forced to participate. There is no "woke brigade" here as you describe them because the only people who use "woke" are those who describe themselves as "anti-woke". What a fat strawman! Guess it's your reaction here that is so very interesting (and telling).
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Post by jesantu on Sept 9, 2024 4:39:45 GMT -5
The reactions here are so very interesting (and telling).
Badmouth players for skillgaining and no one gets offended or says "how dare you insult me for working on my character's skills!" But pointing out the obvious, that cybersex is cybersex, and the woke brigade raises their fists in the air in protest like it's the most offensive thing ever stated. It just further proves that Arm is primarily a sex-themed MUD. Otherwise why so selective about what hurts your feelings?
Most people don't care about people twinking up their skills. They also don't care about people cybersexing as long as they are not (or do not feel) forced to participate. My example above about Nergal addressed this, which is my purpose in this discussion and nothint else. Most of us could make long lists of examples, such as the time a Shalooonsh-animated NPC was openly discussing a PC's preferred sex positions in a busy tavern and asking others to weigh in on the topic. If you haven't had it shoved in your face, more power to you. My experiences, spanning decades, has been the opposite, that Arm is in fact very sex-centric game. |
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Post by mehtastic on Sept 9, 2024 5:41:24 GMT -5
This conversation has gone crazy. All I will say is these are arguments about a game that sunk below 160 unique logins last week. The game averages roughly 25 logged-in players per day over the past week, which is close to where it was before the season announcement (22). At the current trend, by the end of the year, the game will be back to about where it was the day the season announcement was made.
You could say ERP being shoved into everyone's face (this isn't actually happening in-game) is the cause of this, or put out some culture war bullshit argument, or the more likely correct argument that correlation doesn't imply causation and the game is simply dying because it is boring. One thing is for certain though: the game is dying, and forcing leaders to fade ERP isn't going to suddenly make the game less dead.
Sucks to suck.
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Post by jesantu on Sept 9, 2024 6:23:46 GMT -5
You could say ERP being shoved into everyone's face (this isn't actually happening in-game) is the cause of this I haven't read every post here but I don't think anyone's suggesting that "ERP" is resulting in the decline of a game. They're simply describing a well known facet of the game. |
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Post by catacost on Sept 9, 2024 8:21:16 GMT -5
I don’t think every thread needs to turn into “this game sucks and no one plays it”. —- If you haven't had it shoved in your face, more power to you. My experiences, spanning decades, has been the opposite, that Arm is in fact very sex-centric game. That sucks, I don’t know if this stopped happening at some point or if it’s coincidence but as I said earlier this never happened to me in my short time with the game and if it did I would also quit. —- The game is not advertised as a sex game, anyone saying that is just writing anti-Arm propaganda. If the player base has turned it into one, that’s unfortunate. The hints of that in this thread recounting past experiences has been disappointing, I really hope that stuff is in the past and the majority of today’s players respect boundaries. |
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Post by mehtastic on Sept 9, 2024 8:48:46 GMT -5
"The game sucks and no one plays it" is completely relevant to the topic at hand. So is "ERP is killing the game" arguments.
The OOP was all about leaders choking interest out of the game because they head off to private rooms to bang. That isn't an actual thing that is happening. The game's most addicted players are searching for reasons why fewer people are playing the game, and if one player thinks it's because of too much ERP, then it's safe to assume other players think so as well, or can be convinced as such. That's just players coping. The game is dying because it sucks, full stop. It's not dying because of ERP, which is a thing many Armageddon players would like to think because it absolves them of their own responsibility in being boring assholes that no one wants to play with.
Right on the game's website, it says "ArmageddonMUD contains adult-oriented themes such as violence, murder, sexual content, and drug use that are not suitable for anyone under 18". That's not "advertised as a sex game", but there are many people looking to roleplay sexual themes in a not-inherently-sexual game who see that and go "this is the perfect game for me". Bear in mind that the two biggest "Adult" MU*s online are Shangrila, which is focused on BDSM, dubcon, and noncon, and Penultimate Destination, which spun off of Shangrila when they introduced minimum age rules... so you can guess what their focus is.
Your average pervert just wants to roleplay having a five-dollar-footlong cock and goon to a 3 hour ERP session every once in a while. They don't want to run into the people who want to RP being gangbanged to death by 10-foot-tall vore werewolves, because that's a huge turnoff for them. Games like Armageddon with their RP rules force all roleplay, including ERP, to be totally IC, which is a huge advantage for people who are just playing for the ERP aspect because it naturally places limitations on what they will see. And of course, some people get off on pushing the limitations, or ignoring them. So of course it comes back around to "the game sucks", because it does. It has shitty leadership that couldn't account for any of this, and players who contribute to the problem and are too stupid to see how.
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Post by jesantu on Sept 9, 2024 10:26:48 GMT -5
The game is dying because it sucks, full stop. It's not dying because of ERP, No argument there. Given that this game has had no shortage of sex-centric players since time immemorial, it would be an outrageous claim to suggest that cybersex is the cause of any present decline. Hell, if anything that would help bring up the numbers a bit (sad though that may be). |
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Post by jcarter on Sept 9, 2024 10:40:59 GMT -5
The game is dying because it sucks, full stop. It's not dying because of ERP, No argument there. Given that this game has had no shortage of sex-centric players since time immemorial, it would be an outrageous claim to suggest that cybersex is the cause of any present decline. Hell, if anything that would help bring up the numbers a bit (sad though that may be). Imo the game would be better off without it, as it seems to cause issues without bringing anything to the table. But I suspect a segment of the player base would go elsewhere because of the decision. |
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Post by poorimpulsecontrol on Sept 9, 2024 10:42:11 GMT -5
It is nice to cum with a friend.
I never noticed it throttling interaction in the game. This seems like a totally made up problem.
Vore Werewolf Gangbang is another sweet name for a band.
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Post by jesantu on Sept 9, 2024 10:55:41 GMT -5
No argument there. Given that this game has had no shortage of sex-centric players since time immemorial, it would be an outrageous claim to suggest that cybersex is the cause of any present decline. Hell, if anything that would help bring up the numbers a bit (sad though that may be). Imo the game would be better off without it, as it seems to cause issues without bringing anything to the table. But I suspect a segment of the player base would go elsewhere because of the decision. I mean yeah I'd consider the game more mature and less teenagerish too if all the netsex was done virtually (or not at all) but as you say, a segment of players would quit. And I'm of the opinion that it's a large enough segment there'd be almost nobody left. Like 8 players during peak hours kinda thing. |
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