Yet another staff abuse thread

I agree.  It's never okay to blame someone for a suicide.  That's traumatic and a low blow.

I honestly don't know what's happening anymore but this has been on my mind all day.  Jesus Christ.

There's no acknowledgment of what players harmed themselves; the major concern seems to be the ensuing drama.

At this point, does it even matter if it's the staff or players making the community toxic? (I believe it's partially both - and moments like this point to that).  The screaming, obvious truth is that this community is not healthy.  This thing has run its course.  It's not in a healthy place and these kinds of things happening with staff in the middle of (or at least in super close proximity of it) are not good.

I keep saying this - the people involved in this game are real people with a real addiction to this game.  The culture has encouraged it.  You can not foster a culture of lies, abuse, and sexual harassment where players are rewarded for exhibiting unhealthy levels of play times, or minors were encouraged to play a mature themed game and then be shocked by the shit show that unfolds.  So much effort has gone into hiding this over the years and Discord seems to have been a major player in lending some transparency to what's going on with the communication lines of player and staff being increasingly blurred.

I'm practically begging ya'll still circling the Armageddon drain to level with yourself and advocate for its end instead of desperately scrambling to make your mark on a world that does not exist.

No Seasons.  No invite only a weirdo cult move.  It's not fixable, and that's okay.  Everything has an end.

Alexa play, "One Last Time" from Hamilton.

This event is a textbook example of what happens when a player gets involved too deep with another staffer on Arm. Whether Kiyet really blamed Katima for another player's suicide, or Katima simply claimed that Kiyet did in order to get Kiyet in trouble with the staff, the fact of the matter is that this scenario, as insane as it is, resulted from establishing a relationship with a staff member where the exchange of gossip about other players was normalized.

The staff should not cheat by gossipping about their IC rivals OOCly and using their staff account to gather IC info on their PC's rivals. The players should not cheat by being an ear for a cheating staff member. Not that it matters now since the game is dead. But maybe these lessons will be taken to heart wherever Armageddon players end up next, that these roleplaying games are just games, and they can't be won through these tryhard office politics.

If you must talk to staff, do it like me:
1) Befriend multiple staff members.
2) Ask them about staff complaints, and staff announcements, and other administrative stuff.

While it isn't the same situation (OP isn't a psycho) there was a situation a while ago that went as followed:

A guy comes running in here shitting on staff, like we all do. I think he starts complaining about a situation. We all listen in because it's fun. etc.

He gives very VERY vague explanations of what happened, just that he was banned, a half giant was 'harassing him' (We never found out how, I assume that the giant was subduing him and making him rest in the byn barracks because he was hurt. I love giants, they are good boys). But he's going on this fucking Grumble-esque spree.

Then, we find out what happened.
How? Because even fucking staff on the Arm GDB were so fucking disturbed by this guy they posted about it.
The guy, in response to the 'harassment' he faced by the Bynners, had his character jack off and then throw his cum at people.

So it kinda reminds me of this because we get this situation of 'staff is bad' yadadada, and then we find out 'Damn this fucker really did say staff made a player kill themselves'.
A kind of 'Staff is bad' then the drop situation.

So my reading is...

Some poor soul moved cross country to live with/near Katima, at Katima's beckoning; then Katima rejects the poor soul, chaos, the poor soul ends up banned from Arm as "stalker"; the poor soul commits suicide; and Kiyet knows the poor soul and comes forth for a reckoning; and Katima labels Kiyet as "stalker" as well and gets the ban in? Thus, news break on the shadowboard? This is devastating if it's true.

I have to be that guy. I've been in communities where someone faked their own death before. Is there any way we can achieve some confirmation that a death did happen here? If some inarguable piece of proof can be identified, that confirms this beyond the excuse of "internet trolling", I'd want to see it. It would reframe this conversation in the appropriately serious context. Because right now, this tragedy, if it happened as I understand to have read it, is being discarded as internet trolling. Which isn't fair to the victim, should this be true.

Mehtastic with the reasonable as fuck mic drop. Get it.

I've said enough about it. I gave a generalized and very basic account of what someone who is distraught because, and I stress this again, someone who Kiyet ACTUALLY KNOWS IN PERSON, died about it. I have plenty more detail, enough that I felt compelled to come here and straighten things out somewhat with a basic outline of events. I have names and dates.

Because out of respect for, AGAIN, SOMEONE SHE KNEW IN PERSON, Kiyet opted not to talk about it at all, out of respect to the person who is dead, I'm not blasting those publicly.