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Post by amoskun on Mar 12, 2023 14:21:15 GMT -5
I'm not looking for a confrontation. Some of them are even friends or I enjoyed playing with them. I'll just agree with Bebop that the game is a cesspit. But it's very ironic coming from her and some of the others here.
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Post by amoskun on Mar 12, 2023 14:25:26 GMT -5
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Post by amoskun on Mar 12, 2023 14:26:11 GMT -5
Yeah but then we get endless fucking recriminations from a pointless, awful fucking game. And I'm looking at some of these players and going "What?", you were fucking killing people in the noble estate the moment it was convenient for you. Or you hired a whiran to summon someone etc etc. And you're angry about THIS!? Angry about someone being manipulated and harassed OOCly via IC means? Yeah. People are angry. Plenty of people have been angry about that kind of shit for a while, though, my dude. I'm one of them. Loonsh needed to get his balls tacked to the wall for a while. The game stays a cesspit regardless IMHO.
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Post by bebop on Mar 12, 2023 14:28:43 GMT -5
I'm not looking for a confrontation. Some of them are even friends or I enjoyed playing with them. I'll just agree with Bebop that the game is a cesspit. But it's very ironic coming from her and some of the others here. I'd love to hear how it's ironic. Yes, I was offered a replacement Templar and instead of taking it I outed a the sexual harassment and cheating I endured and have been subsequently banned from the game and all communication channels. That choice not only cost me the game and community (which I'm increasingly glad it did) it opened me up to criticism from people like yourself by sharing parts of not only my gaming experience but personal life. I was also harassed for over ten years by my abuser every time I returned to the game, which I listed in detail on these boards. Not sure how or why you're trying to framework my experience on Arm as some net positive full of privilege just because I got some sponsored roles during my seventeen years as a player.
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Post by gringoose on Mar 12, 2023 14:36:36 GMT -5
There's a difference between using coded means that are available to everyone such as twinking or at least available to anyone with karma such as magick to PK. And then using staff privileges to PK. One of them is playing within the limits of them game, and the other is cheating. Staff had 20+ years to get rid of or minimize twinking if they wanted to and there are many options that could have accomplished it. It hasn't happened. Using code to instantly PK someone is part of the game. It's not fun when it happens to one of your characters but it's not cheating. There's worse ways to get PKed than one shotted by an AI strength dwarf such as for example being PKed by someone that's actually cheating.
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Post by amoskun on Mar 12, 2023 14:51:34 GMT -5
There's a difference between using coded means that are available to everyone such as twinking or at least available to anyone with karma such as magick to PK. And then using staff privileges to PK. One of them is playing within the limits of them game, and the other is cheating. Staff had 20+ years to get rid of or minimize twinking if they wanted to and there are many options that could have accomplished it. It hasn't happened. Using code to instantly PK someone is part of the game. It's not fun when it happens to one of your characters but it's not cheating. There's worse ways to get PKed than one shotted by an AI strength dwarf such as for example being PKed by someone that's actually cheating. The "limits of the game" are not cleanly cut. One guy gets away with a backroom pkill with zero cheating because they have friends on staff that have their back. The next guy doesn't because staff view them as a twinky problem player. This is secondary to the fact that backroom pkills are agonizingly toxic to the players on the receiving end but mcb amirite?
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Post by amoskun on Mar 12, 2023 15:02:56 GMT -5
I'm not looking for a confrontation. Some of them are even friends or I enjoyed playing with them. I'll just agree with Bebop that the game is a cesspit. But it's very ironic coming from her and some of the others here. I'd love to hear how it's ironic. Yes, I was offered a replacement Templar and instead of taking it I outed a the sexual harassment and cheating I endured and have been subsequently banned from the game and all communication channels. That choice not only cost me the game and community (which I'm increasingly glad it did) it opened me up to criticism from people like yourself by sharing parts of not only my gaming experience but personal life. I was also harassed for over ten years by my abuser every time I returned to the game, which I listed in detail on these boards. Not sure how or why you're trying to framework my experience on Arm as some net positive full of privilege just because I got some sponsored roles during my seventeen years as a player. Hey. I never got one templar role in 20 years of playing. And yes. I've also been banned from all communication channels. And Loonsh and other staff have also been recurring shitheels to me as well. I don't want to suggest your experience is more or less valid, I think we can agree this isn't an olympic sport.
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Post by lechuck on Mar 12, 2023 15:04:00 GMT -5
I should have been more specific. I think the game itself is toxic. I think the shitty grind till your good at pvp, accumulating power and using those game systems to victimize other players is toxic. A lot of people seem to be fine with it right up until they land on their asses. A large part of the reason for this forum's existence is to minimize the advantage of experience with the code. I for one have gone to great lengths to explain the inner workings of almost everything related to combat, skills and stats precisely in order to reduce the extent to which one player can get one over on another just by having OOC knowledge of game mechanics that the other doesn't. This place is called the "cheater board" for a reason: it's cheating, in the eyes of the Armageddon community, to know how the game works. Of course, that's spouted by the people who do know the code and don't want to lose the advantage this gives them. You know, toxic degenerates who do precisely what you described. You're barking up the wrong tree, coming here.
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Post by baobob on Mar 12, 2023 15:05:26 GMT -5
Can I just point out that everyone here fucking loved perpetuating Armageddon's toxic, broken systems right up until they were the one at the bottom of the heap? Am I the crazy asshole here for pointing this out? Yeah. You are the crazy asshole. If you are going to post sweeping blanket accusations and insults at a very diverse group who have a low tolerance for bs and a long history of free expression, you are going to have a bad time, hyperbolic turd-boy. "Bottom of the heap". Snuffle wetly on my taint.
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Post by amoskun on Mar 12, 2023 15:08:22 GMT -5
Can I just point out that everyone here fucking loved perpetuating Armageddon's toxic, broken systems right up until they were the one at the bottom of the heap? Am I the crazy asshole here for pointing this out? Yeah. You are the crazy asshole. If you are going to post sweeping blanket accusations and insults at a very diverse group who have a low tolerance for bs and a long history of free expression, you are going to have a bad time, hyperbolic turd-boy. "Bottom of the heap". Snuffle wetly on my taint. Wow tastes like he mad.
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Post by jcarter on Mar 12, 2023 15:09:09 GMT -5
I'm not looking for a confrontation. Some of them are even friends or I enjoyed playing with them. I'll just agree with Bebop that the game is a cesspit. But it's very ironic coming from her and some of the others here. you spun up what i'm going to assume is a throwaway gmail just for these boards, registered here, and came out the gate with these posts I'm sorry? The Thryzn are twinky boring bullshit? Where the fuck have you been for the last ten years? Not playing Armageddon clearly. Can I just point out that everyone here fucking loved perpetuating Armageddon's toxic, broken systems right up until they were the one at the bottom of the heap? Am I the crazy asshole here for pointing this out? Some of these players have explained to me why they had to kill my character in the most inane, patronizing ways and then just dismiss me as butthurt. But now they're the righteous victims? But hol'up. Bebop get's offed in (another) rpt fuckup and WAS OFFERED A NEW SPONSORED ROLE right away. I would have never gotten that if I got offed for less than zero reasons. What am I missing here? but you're not looking for a confrontation? come on man, either shit or get off the pot.
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Post by jcarter on Mar 12, 2023 15:12:33 GMT -5
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Post by amoskun on Mar 12, 2023 16:34:00 GMT -5
I see it. Same city but it's not me.
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Post by Azerbanjani on Mar 12, 2023 17:08:55 GMT -5
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Post by amoskun on Mar 12, 2023 17:13:31 GMT -5
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