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Post by Deleted on Jan 16, 2020 0:38:43 GMT -5
If Nyr isn't qwerty. It would be interesting for him to post a tell all. I always figured it was him that busted me 2013'ish on here. Maybe not. I never paid much attention back then just tried to enjoy the game. Nah. I supported the existence of these boards until the WikiLeak. In general, while I know the identities of most people here, I never spoke about them. Though tbh, quiet a few staffers know who is who on these boards and they don't do anything about it either. Sometimes participation on these boards comes up as an "extra" argument towards a conclusion that was already made. But rarely would it be the cause. |
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Post by jkarr on Jan 16, 2020 1:01:20 GMT -5
Though tbh, quiet a few staffers know who is who on these boards and they don't do anything about it either. Sometimes participation on these boards comes up as an "extra" argument towards a conclusion that was already made. But rarely would it be the cause. flat out dead fucking wrong and everyone here already knows it rarely my ass participation here has been the cause for banning for multiple years and staff even made active efforts to track ppl here to fucking target them and lay on ultimatums if they didnt stop posting or delete their accts the recent change to that approach is the exception and not the rule to how theyve treated participation here and its only because they lose even more players and it makes them look even stupider each time those same players come here and put their obsessive desperate antics on blast that they even bothered to stop and ur no one to talk with authority abt even how rare it would be now for it to happen unless ur staff so pick one and saddle up dipshit |
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Post by Deleted on Jan 16, 2020 1:08:26 GMT -5
Though tbh, quiet a few staffers know who is who on these boards and they don't do anything about it either. Sometimes participation on these boards comes up as an "extra" argument towards a conclusion that was already made. But rarely would it be the cause. flat out dead fucking wrong and everyone here already knows it participation here has been the cause for banning for multiple years and staff even made active efforts to track ppl here to fucking target them and lay on ultimatums if they didnt stop posting or delete their accts the recent change to that approach is the exception and not the rule to how theyve treated participation here and its only because they lose even more players and it makes them look even stupider each time those same players come here and put their obsessive desperate antics on blast that they even bothered to stop By recent, you mean with nergals departure lol? |
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Post by jkarr on Jan 16, 2020 1:11:01 GMT -5
whenever u decided its rare
but unless ur staff u dont have the authority to say participation here would rarely be the cause
so which is it
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Post by shakes on Jan 16, 2020 1:13:28 GMT -5
Qwerty, after I returned ... I put in a special app for a gick to try out. You get three a year, my karma hadn't been docked, and I wasn't banned. I got THIS response:
Greetings,
We won't be accepting this at this time. After the suggestions put forward previously that would have resulted in your having the karma desired were not only ignored, but doubled down upon, the necessary trust factor is not there from the current staffing team. Once more, should we see steps taken to change such behaviour, the chances of seeing such a role in the future will be drastically improved - much like your karma.
Your Special Application request has been resolved.
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What behavior change did he mean? I don't know. They never really spoke about it. But I took it to entirely mean STOP POSTING ON THE SB.
So while they may not be banning or openly threatening people ... they are coming after people for posting here in some small, petty ways.
Or it might have just been me and what I posted previously about his good buddy Shalooonsh.
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Post by jkarr on Jan 16, 2020 1:18:30 GMT -5
shakes dont waste any time proving shit to that pussy the evidence is posted all over from former and current players multiple exstaff and also an exproducer
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Post by sirra on Jan 16, 2020 1:24:39 GMT -5
Staff tend to make their minds up about players very quickly. All it takes is a single incident, and some jackass on staff mis-interpreting it, and then deciding to rip you about it, and then it just never changes. If you're friends with a staffer (Or TSing them), they might speak up in your defense and you get a fair hearing, or if you're an ancient veteran who's been to some Arma-con or such. But usually, especially if your character is in any way considered a rival or even slightly more popular than them, they'll seize on any excuse to hate you. Having a stronger character than one of them is a perfectly valid reason, and which leads to cries of you being a horrible twink, and which ignores every other contribution to the game.
Two main kinds of players find their way to this board:
1) Newbies who are completely lost, and would quit playing Armageddon if this board didn't give them a lifeline.
2) Those who have already been jaded or blacklisted.
All this board has ever done, has made it easier for staff to be dicks to players they already didn't like.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 16, 2020 1:26:05 GMT -5
Isfriday posts on these forums periodically. He isn't a shill like me. Nor is he quick to see a dagger in every shadow.
Is he having problems?
Monkey is often critical in his posts, but without going beyond the border of credulity. I assume nobody is giving him any shit.
Kronibas? Grumble?
I'm not going to pick apart the messages you post here, Shakes. I, to be honest, have not been paying attention. But I do recall saying how diametrically opposite your understanding of staff interaction with you and what staff was actually trying to tell you on occasion. Taking this from some of the things you post.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 16, 2020 1:28:37 GMT -5
. All this board has ever done, has made it easier for staff to be dicks to players they already didn't like. I actually agree with this part. But not the rest of the post. |
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Post by shakes on Jan 16, 2020 1:33:18 GMT -5
Yeah, and you may be right about that interaction ... however they don't give a shit about correcting it because they don't feel they have any accountability. Someone feels abused by them they'd rather laugh about it and fuck that person over MORE than carry on an actual conversation with them about it.
What does that say about the quality of their character?
I've been playing 4 years. I was never part of any cliques and I never achieved anything. Probably 3% of the time I enjoyed and 97% of it was spent desperately trying to recreate that 3% and failing.
Some of that is the fault of staff, and some is the fault of other players ... but ultimately the fault lies with me because of my complete failure as an adult to recognize an activity I was engaged in that brought me no joy and only stress.
So FUCK ARM. I went earlier and scrambled my password to something I will never remember. I already don't remember it. Because while I might later crack and try to play it again, I seriously doubt I'll crack far enough to go to them on bended knee and beg that they reset my password for me.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 16, 2020 1:37:28 GMT -5
It's okey. Man. I'll pm the password to you
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Post by jkarr on Jan 16, 2020 1:39:21 GMT -5
It's okey. Man. I'll pm the password to you this fucking crack dealer  |
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Post by BitterFlashback on Jan 16, 2020 4:17:21 GMT -5
Huh? I haven't read all this - Gimme a bit. So I went and read shtuff - Not all shtuff, just where I was mentioned: i don't know if shaleah is off or on. it's a good example of one of arm's more vocal/engaged players presenting a very questionable take.
What "very questionable take" am I presenting? Of all the people in the community terminal , I am the first to own ALL my shit. From noob to now. What exactly are you looking for? You're not going to get a satisfactory reply. The genius who registered that sock puppet 18 hours ago to derail this thread just grabbed the most recent thing he or she could find and flung it out there like the lazy shit they are. I doubt they read your thread, let alone this forum. Given boog's first post, terminal is probably a staffer. The idea that this board and the staff are equally guilty of some crime against Arm is absurd. Staff is guilty of staff abuse. We occasionally bring it to light, which makes them feel bad, which they turn around and use as an excuse to perform more abuse. Staff is still the guilty party; there's no coming together or everyone doing their part because most of us quit the game over it. Boo fucking hoo for the unpaid volunteers that they're "being hurt" by having their behavior exposed. Maybe we should all take up the pretense of projecting how open-minded we are by blaming a murder victim for getting blood on the killer's knife. That's certainly not transparent. Any wagers about who on staff was embarrassed so much by boog's first post that they felt the need to come over and shame us with a sock puppet? |
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Post by gdbjohn on Jan 16, 2020 7:17:34 GMT -5
The idea that this board and the staff are equally guilty of some crime against Arm is absurd. Staff is guilty of staff abuse. We occasionally bring it to light You guys have done some shit that I personally think is pretty unethical. This board has done good. Some of the people who contributed to that did so trying to improve the game. Others helped do good for Armageddon by accident. But you are not the saints you sometimes like to try to paint yourselves. You regularly cherrypick shit to try to create a narrative that agrees with your biases. Many of you are also as paranoid as all hell. Now sometimes this paranoia has been warranted. But just because SOMETIMES they're after you doesn't mean you aren't paranoid. And it doesn't mean they're always out to get you.
But with all that said, I do hold staff to a higher standard and I do see their bad acts as worse for the game then anything that's been done on these forums. I do agree with you that they aren't equivalences. And as much as I think JCarter is an asshole, he did takedown the wikileak, strip out any identifying information before reposting it. He might be an asshole. But he at least has SOME morales. There are those on staff who (if the stories are true) have proven themselves to not have morals.
But that's a pretty big caveat. If the stories are true. Because the stories posted here are often slanted and biased to represent staff in the worst light and paint a picture that would not be drawn by an innocent bystander. Some of you have spent YEARS railing against the staff, and have recently started playing and suddenly staff aint so bad anymore. It's hilarious and also quite a bit sad that people would devote so much energy into what is clearly anger towards people who run a game they don't play.
But nothing that is done here can justify staff's bad acts. Because when you guys do something bad, there are consequences. Staff can ban you. When staff do something bad, there are no consequences. As has been proven time and time again over the years.
But there truly isn't any way to know what bad things staff have done, what things have been misrepresented, and what things have been made up whole cloth out of nothing. And because all 3 have happened, I just try to ignore the all the drama and just play the game and have fun. But sometimes I get sucked into it. And I start punching at everyone. Because I do see all the bullshit and I can't help but call bullshit when I see it. It's one of my many faults.
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Post by grumble on Jan 16, 2020 7:35:27 GMT -5
Consequences for me posting to these boards, hrmmm...
Well, honestly, for the first two and a half years I posted here it was in lolcat language so as to avoid detection, so we can scratch those right off. On Armageddon I haven't really had any consequences I can really point to as definitely resulting from my participation on these boards, this does not mean there were not consequences, but staff didn't like me much anyway (I've been banned 3 times) so it's hard to say whether it was something I posted here, something they either rightly or wrongly disagreed with about my play, or some combination of the two, aside from:
That time Nergal banned me and Case talked me into asking to come back like a month or so later. I sent in an apology to staff for flipping out on them, and Nergal delivered the "ultimatum" he was known for at the time, although the language must've been different in my case, as he said "Just, stop interacting with the shadowboards or their discord for a month, and after I see that we'll see about unbanning your account."
This didn't say delete my shit or anything, it didn't say leave the discord, just, to stop interacting. So that's what I did. I got unbanned. Then I played a little bit longer and got banned again for flipping out about some dumb shit.
EDIT: I'm pretty sure the first time Nergal banned me it was for something that happened IG and the resulting complaint I filed with staff, which was filed when I was still pissed off about it so wasn't very diplomatically worded, and was rejected, and around that time, I posted about the event I STILL think is bullshit to the shadowboards.
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