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Post by lurklord on Aug 20, 2013 8:49:40 GMT -5
If you're a warrior the only reason to not use a shield is if you're trying to kill an obviously weaker opponent before they're able to flee. Or a scrub. High natural defence and warrior max shield use allows you to do crazy things like tank Bahamets.
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Post by vulcan on Aug 20, 2013 13:03:06 GMT -5
Does all this hold true when a warrior is using an "advanced" weapon type? Most of them appear to be two handed. Does using a polearm a trident or a pike offer enough of a defensive or offensive bonus that losing the shield is worth it?
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Post by jcarter on Aug 20, 2013 13:19:51 GMT -5
This is a lot of words for an nearly useless comment. I'm just wondering who's going to win. Three warriors, all spent the same amount of time training. One with a shield, one with two weapons, one two-handing one weapon. Is the difference negligible? Is it based on the characters stats? Should a strong character go with dual-wielding, a weak character go with e-two? Should you use Tw-handed vs people with shields, or does dual-wield work better? Those sorts of things. It was a polite way of telling you your question was dumb and the Armageddon mud version of 'guys who would win in a fight, a navy SEAL, army ranger, or batman?' Next time I guess I'll be more explicit hth
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Post by jasred on Aug 20, 2013 14:48:58 GMT -5
This is a lot of words for an nearly useless comment. I'm just wondering who's going to win. Three warriors, all spent the same amount of time training. One with a shield, one with two weapons, one two-handing one weapon. Is the difference negligible? Is it based on the characters stats? Should a strong character go with dual-wielding, a weak character go with e-two? Should you use Tw-handed vs people with shields, or does dual-wield work better? Those sorts of things. It was a polite way of telling you your question was dumb and the Armageddon mud version of 'guys who would win in a fight, a navy SEAL, army ranger, or batman?' Next time I guess I'll be more explicit hth Just because you don't know the answer doesn't mean someone else does, there are ex-staffers on this board who likely have some useful information. The styles obviously have advantages and the place where they can be most optimal. My question was a bit more than just "which style is best" It's also "which style is best in what situations." And a bit of "what does higher skill in dual-wield and e-two entail? More chance to hit?" "Your question was dumb" Thanks for the laugh bro, but asking questions is what you made this forum for.
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Post by topkekm8s on Aug 20, 2013 15:08:46 GMT -5
now now
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Post by lurklord on Aug 20, 2013 16:45:18 GMT -5
Does all this hold true when a warrior is using an "advanced" weapon type? No. It doesn't. Even magick weapons pale in comparison to the sheer badassery that is a razor or a polearm. Razors will tear your opponent's armor to bits kill everyone that hasn't got the skill themselves (Read: everyone) in about two hits. Polearm users are near impossible to hit because they'll parry your fucking everything.
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Post by jcarter on Aug 20, 2013 17:28:06 GMT -5
I was going to type up a post but im just gonna say fuck it and ban jasred because this is my internet fiefdom and I think snark posts are just going to turn this place into the shithole that is the GDB.
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Post by lulz on Aug 20, 2013 21:10:00 GMT -5
Have another weapon as a backup, or do like me and have three just to be safe. Problem solved.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 20, 2013 21:35:49 GMT -5
I wish you wouldnt do that, Jcarter. Sure, it's your fiefdom, but then you're no different then Nyr.
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Post by lulz on Aug 20, 2013 21:39:15 GMT -5
Does all this hold true when a warrior is using an "advanced" weapon type? Most of them appear to be two handed. Does using a polearm a trident or a pike offer enough of a defensive or offensive bonus that losing the shield is worth it? No. Listen: Using advanced weapon skills are PERFECT for warriors. Why? Because other classes do not have those weapon skills. Not having a weapon skill means you are unable to properly defend it. Let's say I'm advanced in piercing, bludgeoning, slashing and chopping. That means I will be able to better defend against attacks using ANY of those variants. However, if my attacker is using a polearm and I have NO experience in using one, they have a significant advantage. Make sense?
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Post by blasphemy on Aug 21, 2013 0:05:29 GMT -5
What lulz said. Weapon defense takes your weapon skill into consideration.
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Post by dessertman on Sept 2, 2013 12:33:43 GMT -5
Not wearing gloves gives a boost to disarm resistance, IIRC. Help disarm indicates this and I always thought two handed made it more difficult to be disarmed as well, since you have two hands on the weapon.
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Post by raven on Sept 28, 2013 19:47:50 GMT -5
AFAIK etwo increases damage from your strength as well as accuracy. In the end, if you have three completely equal characters excepting these three skills, it would turn down to a fight with the random number generator. If Etwo gets in several blows that aren't blocked or parried, he'll win. If dual-wield parries more often than not he'll win. If shield blocks a significant number of blows, he'll win. I find your name quite apt for this little gem you gave us. Dual wielding, even with max parry, will lose out against an individual with max shield use. Again, I reiterate: do not dual wield if you've maxed parry and have at least journeyman weapon skill levels. There's literally no point. Thank you. I was going to say something on those lines. Also if Warrior has Shield/Parry Master like I tend to go for then you tend to do very well in combat. Even against Two Handed combatants. Of course skill use also plays a role in this. Disarm is such an awesome defensive skill. Also it's nice to read when your shield works in a disarm counter. And Kick and Bash actually work well with a Warrior with Shield/Parry Master given the insane amount of defense you have. Note: Not sure if shield helps disarm counter as even I was surprised when my shield came up in that disarm counter I suppose it could have just been a visual thing and shield plays no role in a disarm counter.
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Post by Prime Minister Sinister on Oct 1, 2013 18:16:18 GMT -5
I used to be all about shield-use until I played with the changes to two-handed.
I got to the point to where I would regularly reel-lock many of the more dangerous beasties with a poor-strength ranger using spears.
In all the time I spent sparring with warriors in various clans, I had never been disarmed successfully.
I parried the shit out of all of the everything.
All this before I even branched parry.
It was great.
<3 etwo
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Post by delerak on Oct 1, 2013 22:06:43 GMT -5
Eh.. keyword *can*.. if its a brand new ranger sure. A ranger with max archery is going to get passed that roll most likely.
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