I might argue whether subguilds are added content or just nerfing content because it's a simple change of what table it exists in guild or subguild. Then copy it 2 times (or whatever) and limit the spell list.
But that being said Drovians are cool and I am glad they and Nilazi are back into the 'general' rotation that is accessible by karma. Returning content is always good imo.
Shadow mages are notorious for Send Shadow, a spell that lets them take a nap somewhere (like a temple or apartment) and send out an ethereal familiar which can only be fucked with by ethereal mobs.
This makes them incredibly potent as spies as they essentially get free eavesdropping. A big part of the reason why they were gone for so long, probably, is how ridiculously good this was. So it's a big question whether or not they get this move back. Summon, for example, the big ganking spell, doesn't seem attainable by anyone.
I imagine they either removed or changed Send Shadow. It was such a dumb spell. Wonder how many plots were thwarted in infancy because Drovians just got to wire-tap all the important PCs in the world with no risk, cost or difficulty involved. Psionicists can/could pretty much do the same, but at least they were a) kill on sight and b) pretty heavily regulated, and failure sometimes exposes the psionicist's identity.
Invisible whirans can sometimes be thwarted with master scan. Send shadow can only be thwarted with detect ethereal, which even templars don't start with (though this may have changed as templars have been totally reworked with the triple ministry setup). And who gets detect ethereal? Drovians. Bit of a joke, they are the only non-sorc class that can counter themselves.
There is an item coded in the game that has an on-use effect that kills all the drovian shadows in the room as you, but afaik there is no way to easily get it, or maybe get it at all.
However drovians still have interesting uses even without send shadow. A sufficiently devilish player can do a lot with their kit.
Instead of breaking it down spell by spell, I'll ask you to just think about the gank potential of a rude dude who can walk through walls unseen, see in the dark, turn a room dark, inflict a debuff on someone, inflict fear on someone, and pierce their armor with his magical blade of +10 fuck you
sex will never be safe again
Ethereal form requires a smart player to use correctly, however, as there are several layers to its proper use.
That's pretty cool. Crazy unbalanced but such is the game.
Though if you think about it, is it really that different from shadowing someone back to their apartment to kill them? Except for the entirely cool theme of it ... still just killing people in their apartment. There's only so many ways to do it.
It's a bit different in that drovians have broader horizons for what they can infiltrate. Not a lot of compounds have ethereal guards. Fucking with the nobility, and robbing them, if you are ballsy enough, is absolutely possible.
But there are several caveats to a drovian's capabilities as regards ethereal form and ethereal items that makes pulling this stuff off unlikely for sub-caveman IQ players.
nile: the only apoc drama be on an arm drama website. lol
May 16, 2020 20:30:49 GMT -5
nile: almost guarantee arm staff are LOVING this. hahaha. long as the game is good fun it's all a bit irrelevant. but the anti-arm crew giving the arm staff some sense of schadenfreude based purely a forum for whining made me lol
May 16, 2020 20:32:52 GMT -5
nile: Also, been playing Arm again on an alt account (omfg their ban was easy to get around...and tbh i have more fun in apoc)
May 16, 2020 20:34:00 GMT -5
vex: Bans are irrelevant, and pointlessly antagonistic. The only game I play, where staff address problems with aggression, bans, and down talk, is Arm. The rest have realized, all that results in, is a bitter player, more inclined towards "revenge" play.
May 19, 2020 19:20:02 GMT -5
vex: Better to incentivize ideal play and behavior, than try and fail to intimidate and leverage empty threats, because nobody is intimidated by an angry elf fetishist on the internet, and there are virtually no threats a player can't circumvent, easily.
May 19, 2020 19:23:36 GMT -5
baobob: Arm turned to condemnation, punishment and vengeful retribution against players pretty hard long, long ago. Never turned back.
May 22, 2020 20:17:04 GMT -5
dotto: is this game still even operating
Jun 6, 2020 10:25:56 GMT -5
Lizzie: i didnt know about apocalypse till today, and im probably not going to ever give it a shot after seeing the last few posts in that thread
Jun 8, 2020 3:04:14 GMT -5