Response to Brokkr

Or I can just be this guy, who challenges what people say. So people learn to back up their claims, form it in a clear manner, that is actually beneficial to others, and not easily dismissed.


Have you read any posts made by Yourvisiongoesblack? It's pretty hard to argue against a lot of what he says. He's putting some foundation to his words and I agree with a vast amount of it.


Someone accused Loonsh of playing a Kadian sponsored role in this thread. He wasnt staff at the time, but without knowing this, it sounds like a true statement. Except ... it isnt. Is it? Seuly is mostly full of shit and I'm calling him up on it. You guys are too fixated on who I am, instead of conversation points.

I haven't been punished (that I know of) by my participation here and not only does Qwerty know who I play, I have posted who I played in the past here.

It's not like the dude is a secret agent infiltrating a terrorist cell.

If I was staff on Armageddon, I'd rather read this forum too than Lizzie's Corner, I mean, the GDB. This is where real matters get discussed, real code gets bandied about in a way that's more effective than I'm sure their testers are able to uncover, and despite the vitriol, it's just more honest.

I have FAR more issues with the playerbase of Arm than I do with staff. My discussions via the request tool with staff range from brusque and clinical to enthusiastic and entertaining. I've suffered some injustices from some and given the benefit of the doubt with others.

Like any organization of people, it's a mixed bag. Not only is it a mixed bag, but sometimes you're going to catch people on a bad day.

Some of the things mentioned here that have happened? Yeah, that's bad. I can understandably see why someone would quit the game over it. But I'm not a young guy naïve to the ways of the world. I know there is a difference between individual abuse and systemic abuse. While I see and acknowledge the individual abuse, I don't see a system where only the predators get promoted and then they get allowed to do whatever they want to the prey with no recourse.

Why would anyone play such a game? It would self destruct within months.

I'll point out that if I've been secretly punished ... it's REALLY being kept a secret. I was already denied karma before I ever spoke to the dude because I'm too PK-oriented and the only other even potential punishment I could see being handed down is to never give me a sponsored role.

I haven't lost the karma point I have, I haven't had dragons teleport to me and eat me with every character, and I haven't even noticed that I get bad stats.

I don't think I need to really defend qwerty. He's doing alright on his own, and jcarter seems more committed to maintaining the code of "say anything you want" than banning people, but I do sometimes feel I need to play devil's advocate when the game itself is being unfairly bashed.

Clearly I still play the game, an enjoy it, or I wouldn't bother discussing it here. I've left like seven other muds in my life and I'm not on their forums talking about why I stopped playing.

I generally enjoy the constructive conversations here and try and stay out of the non-constructive ones, but I also really dislike dogpiles. That's why I left the GDB. I didn't like how they'd dogpile someone as soon as they said something that countered the group-think.

Let's NOT be the GDB. If you don't like qwerty and his arguments, then sharpen your verbal swords and apply some logic to an argument to counter him.

Shakes I believe the issue here is qwerty is being a gladfly. His position will morph multiple times within a single topic of discussion ranging from prove it to that isn't applicable to that was long ago to that is an isolated incident. There is a certain "bad faith" that occurs in a discussion when someone is unwilling to cede a point.

You want to see good faith. Go check out the MSB thread promoting Optional Realities where I outright apologize or admit I was wrong or didn't know something.

Of all the excuses for staff goofs, this is the poorest. No one involved in these projects, with the possible exception of Sanvean, is making money off of them.

While it is fun to pick on you querty, I will thank you for being here. My defection to these boards was because whenever there's a goof with the MUD, you're stuck having the discussion about it with the staff in secret on a forum that they control, and staff usually expect players to make up any discrepancy.

I think that's really what I would have wanted for the game, a forum for complaints such as exist. The GDB does not provide that forum.